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-About Barrel Batterys in A2000/A4000/A3000
« on: November 14, 2009, 01:51:27 AM »
Hello,

For all us are know about the Barrel Batterys inside our A2000/A4000/A3000,  in this years many are leaking!.
Are big nightmare if you discover that late!, becouse maybe your Motherboard be seriusly damage, and died.
But we know too thats can be avoid, changing the battery, for a brand new, or putting a coin battery, this is a  much better option.

But, a few week ago, i discover in any  A2000 of mine, not have Battery!!.. yes.. not Barrel battery, not coin battery, just the place without nothing, only the printed graphic in the motherboard. The A2000, work fine. ITs a REV 6.3 MotherBoard

Then here born my question.

I read sometime if you remove the Barrel Battery, the Amiga not work, but when  i see this, i m not sure if that are true, becouse thi A2000 not has and work fine (Yes, there not keeps the  Date), but in this case i dont care.
Yes..question..

Its possible remove the batterys and not  replace with other?.

I launch this question, becouse i dont know if maybe this A2000 came without battery from tha factory-

Comments.. are welcome

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Re: -About Barrel Batterys in A2000/A4000/A3000
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2009, 01:56:09 AM »
A battery is only required for keeping date and time on your Amiga computer.  To remove it has no other effect, AFAIK.
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Re: -About Barrel Batterys in A2000/A4000/A3000
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2009, 02:28:19 AM »
humm.. then if you want avoid the Motherboard Damage, just are necesary remove the Barrel Battery, and the Amiga still working, just not Keep the date, thats right?!.
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2009, 03:28:21 AM »
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humm.. then if you want avoid the Motherboard Damage, just are necesary remove the Barrel Battery, and the Amiga still working, just not Keep the date, thats right?!.


Exactly.
 

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Re: -About Barrel Batterys in A2000/A4000/A3000
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2009, 07:12:50 AM »
I have an A2000 without battery and it works fine.
 

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Re: -About Barrel Batterys in A2000/A4000/A3000
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2009, 08:42:12 AM »
It's the Nicd type barrel batteries that produce problems. If you replace them with an NiMh type barrel then this will not cause any problems in the future.
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Re: -About Barrel Batterys in A2000/A4000/A3000
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2009, 09:21:50 AM »
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It's the Nicd type barrel batteries that produce problems. If you replace them with an NiMh type barrel then this will not cause any problems in the future.


Don't feel too safe - NiMH can also leak when in use for a decade or more...
 

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Re: -About Barrel Batterys in A2000/A4000/A3000
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2009, 10:51:49 AM »
Never EVER replace the battery with another NiCad / NiMh battery. It's cheap and easy to go for a coin type and is also so much safer. My A4k was bought with it removed though I havn't got round to fitting a replacement as of yet.
 

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Re: -About Barrel Batterys in A2000/A4000/A3000
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2009, 05:52:24 PM »
Ok, i going to remove a Barrel Battery in Any A2000 if mine, i know there has yet..
The time is Gold!!.. tomorow can be late!!

I will update after operation!--
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Re: -About Barrel Batterys in A2000/A4000/A3000
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2009, 08:22:48 PM »
Ok guys,

The Barrel battery removed was succesfull Done!.

The A2000 work fine without Barrel battery.

I think, was a good moment for  remove the battery becouse i sew  little signs of leaks started!

anyway.. if you have any A2000/A3000/A4000, i suggest to you minimal remove the barrel battery.

One more time, the Amiga Preservation Win! over the Time Signals!..

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« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2009, 09:44:59 PM »
The A3000 will lose it's battmem settings for SCSI when you remove the battery.

Often this is not a problem, the machine will boot up and work. However if you have a HD that requires battmem to be set in a certain way for maximum performance, you will take an io penalty.

I just take any old 3.6V NiMH battery and replace it. The last few I did were cordless phone batteries that I just affixed to the motherboard somewhere.

I like real time clocks. It's so stupid to have all your files dated 1978.
 

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Re: -About Barrel Batterys in A2000/A4000/A3000
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2009, 10:02:36 PM »
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I like real time clocks. It's so stupid to have all your files dated 1978.


Ack. However, if you're just playing games it doesn't make much of a difference.

A good alternative to using a coin type battery is placing a rechargeable one away from the mainboard where it can't do any harm.
 

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Re: -About Barrel Batterys in A2000/A4000/A3000
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2009, 11:27:45 PM »
All amigas run fine with the batteries removed. I took them all out long ago. Just remember to set time and date when they start up or you end up with wacky timestamped files
 

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Re: -About Barrel Batterys in A2000/A4000/A3000
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2009, 11:32:21 PM »
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I like real time clocks. It's so stupid to have all your files dated 1978.


Maybe thats right if you have only 1 Amiga and this uses for all things, but if you have more Amigas (Like me!) and you know wich kind of uses give to those Amigas then, not problem if a couple of Amigas not have a Battery. If its much problem, you can write a Script in the Startup for Set the Date and Hour and Done!. How much time you spend setting a date?.. 10 - 15 seconds?..come on!-
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Re: -About Barrel Batterys in A2000/A4000/A3000
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2009, 01:25:58 AM »
My A4000 never worked again after desoldering the battery.  I had to get a new motherboard on eBay.