---====UPDATE====---- A3000 Rom help needed

[amesie2]

I just bought a set of roms from software hut for my 3000D the current rom chips are superkick roms.
I can't figure out if I remove these roms and put the new 3.1 roms into those sockets at U182 and U183 or if the 3.1 roms go into U180 and U181 as shown on the label stuck to the top of the 3.1 roms.

Can someone please shed light on this?

Thanx!!

Hey everyone I just got my rear set of 3.1 roms for my 3000 and they work great. It appears that there is a difference in the rom pinouts between the front and rear set. I think Intel actually makes the rear rom at any rate it is working with 3.1!!!

Thank you all for the help   :-D

[amiga92570]

u180 and u181.

[amesie2]

I tried putting them in U180 U181 and removed the superkicks from U182 and U183. The system did nothing when turned on.

I have a rev 6.1 board which also has jumpers near the U180 and U181 which are numbered 180 and 181 currently on pins 2-3. I am wondering if I need to move them to pins 1-2?

[amiga92570]

Do you have rear sockets in 182 and 183? if so you may need rear socket roms. They are different. If you need them softhut will probably exchange them. I have only had one 3000 that was like that. The jumpers are for 500/2000 roms.

[TjLaZer]

Yes I had to get these special "ROM Tower" ROMs for the rear sockets to make it work in my 3000.  

BTW, anyone know what kind of ROMs these special ROMs are?

[amiga92570]

I know softhut sells them, I just purchased some about two months ago.

[amesie2]

@amiga92570

I have the rom chips that go in the rear 2 rom sockets u182 and u183. I guess I will have to get the correct ones from software hut.

@TjLaZer

I am not sure what the difference would be in the chips? I did look at the instructions and it did mention the rom tower that the chips would go in the same sockets in the tower.


Thanx for the info. guys

[da9000]

@amesie2:

Another tip: on some A3000D motherboards (mine), the labels for the even and odd ROM (ROM0 and ROM1) are reversed, so if you get nothing (black screen), perhaps you must switch the ROMs. For example, on mine, ROM0 goes into U181, and ROM1 into U180.

Switching them around is not going to cause any damage, as long as you line up the pins and the "notches" at the end of the chips with those on the socket/motherboard diagram.

Good luck!

[amesie2]

@da9000

I already did reverse them in both the front 2 sockets and the rear 2 sockets. I put them in the front sockets and rear sockets. I filled all 4 sockets with the 1.4 roms and 3.1 and did reverse all 4 chips nothing worked.

da9000 wrote:
@amesie2:

Another tip: on some A3000D motherboards (mine), the labels for the even and odd ROM (ROM0 and ROM1) are reversed, so if you get nothing, perhaps you switched the ROMs. For example, on mine, ROM0 goes into U181, and ROM1 into U180.

That's not reversed man! That's the right way!

Socket U181 is for the even data (ROM 0) and socket u180 is for the odd data (ROM1).

[da9000]

@amesie2:

I've not tried with all 4 chips in.

What I meant is to swap the even/odd (ROM0/ROM1) chips within 2 sockets. For example, if you have the mouse/keyboard ports facing you, while looking at the board (assuming 3000D here), then you have 4 sockets from left to right: A, B, C, D. I meant, put ROM1 in A, ROM0 in B, and leave C and D blank.

If you've done that, well then, I'm sorry to hear it didn't work :-(


@eslapion:

Like I said, on *some* A3000 motherboards (mine), the *labels* (aka: silkscreen) are reveresed.

So if I followed the silkscreen labels (U180 says ROM0 and U181 says ROM1), I would have ROM0 chip on U180 and ROM1 chip on U181. Then the motherboard doesn't work.

With the motherboard *working* the chip located on U180 says ROM1 on it, and the chip located on U181 says ROM0 on it.

@da9000:

I didn't get to see too many A3000 Motherboards in my life but those I saw only said U180 and U181, there was no indication such as ROM1 and/or ROM0.

All the ones I saw put U181 and U180 in the same order.

It was on the chips that I saw mentions such as even/odd or rom1/ROM0

I did once get chips with stickers on them saying U181 with Rom1 and U180 with Rom0 and I had to tell the gentleman who provided them to me that he didn't have a clue what he was doing.

[amesie2]

@all

I have emailed software hut and am getting the correct ones sent to me. I do need the rear 3.1 rom set as mentioned before.

The guys at software hut are upright guys, I explained my situation and they offered to take the originals back and send me the right ones. I decided to keep the originals as I have a 3000D on the way which needs 3.1 roms as well that they might work in and if not I can send them back for another set of rear 3.1 roms which has been OK'd by software hut already. The second set of roms cost me only 35.00 plus shipping they gave me a break on the second set since I already oredered one set.

I will plan on doing more business with software hut in the near future.

Thanx everyone for the help I am confident the new roms will get me running again.

[da9000]

eslapion wrote:
I had to tell the gentleman who provided them to me that he didn't have a clue what he was doing.

Yes, I've noticed that's pretty much your style... even though:

eslapion wrote:
I didn't get to see too many A3000 Motherboards in my life

[da9000]

amesie2 wrote:
Thanx everyone for the help I am confident the new roms will get me running again.

All is well that ends well :-)

I'm still interested though in someone chipping in on TJ's question:

TJLazer wrote:
 Yes I had to get these special "ROM Tower" ROMs for the rear sockets to make it work in my 3000.

BTW, anyone know what kind of ROMs these special ROMs are?