@TakeMeHomeMama
People might be happily discussing about AOS and you waltz in saying HOW Mos is better.
Sure it has its benefits, and if the OP is interested, why not choose MOS instead? That's fine, however turning every OS4 thread into a petty competition only lead to the usual guys (old timers) fighting it out, the OP loses interest, and leave.
When I see this i generally waltz in myself with statements such as "people like to think of amiga as AmigaOS running on a custom computer not as a hermit crab that runs on Apple scraps" on purpose, just to show how ugly it can get if you keep the harsh competition up (and in particular, talking about my first 2 hours here, I also checked in to see what moderators do here to avoid what i believe will scare away EVERYONE from NG Amiga solutions).
You said I didn't like the arguments and cryed for mods, so i argued a little more...
Remember that the minor adjustments to OS4.1 are finished and after the X1000 port, all they will have as "work" will be the much needed 3D subsystem replacement (and other modernizations such as SMP)but as I already said, If in the future AOS gets a full Mesa port and new 3D drivers, i won't come here saying "look MOSSERS, shove that 64MB vram c*ap up your a*se now" in any thread some ex Amigan gone mac, asks about MorphOS for his Mac hardware.
It's not the way to go if we want back comers, both AOS and MOS, try to understand that.
@gazgod
I see I steered some waters, but quite frankly I saw my share of biased and ill informed opinions durin those "call outs" (as you called them) with no proof whatsoever presented to corroborate them.
"ill informed", here is a summary of what I've been saying regarding "classics" and amiga possible evolution (which leads to NG Amigas) Correct me if I'm wrong (I am an open person):
We know the A1000 was a game console which was then decided to be turned into a computer, we also know that for how advanced it was it was very expensive and C= sold very little, with
no SW made to use its real power (at that time, I mean, 1985).
At the time the A500 came out, C= missed the first of many trains by ditching the Ranger chipset (to which also Miner had worked on) and we know that by 1994, C= decided to scrap Amiga for good.
We also know that the "last"
Amiga (hombre was no Amiga) they talked about at 1993 devcon was to have the AAA chip-set as a modular interchangeable board, the whole project was
ditched, we know that, but if for a moment we want to forecast what would have happened in case they made it, we can clearly see that by 1996/97 off the shelf GPUs, which were advancing at the pace of a new chip every 3 months at the time (from 10 different companies) would have replaced any chip-set C= had in mind (with the difference that in the A4000 adding an RTG card still leaves the old chipset there, with that new Amiga, after taking AAA away, there would be no GFX chipset left inside the machine) and by today any Amiga would use Ati or Nvidia GPUs (there was no competing with that evolution speed, too fast).
Amiga in 1994 was already only good as a media authoring workstation (2D/3D/Video) with a very little (if any) place in the gaming market.
Then Commodore failed, Amiga went from Escom (first purchaser) to Amiga Inc. (last)
Amiga Inc. wanted to divide its Amiga business in their "anywhere idea" and a more classic rendition of the platform (new AmigaOne HW running AmigaOS4), and this latter part, has been legally handed over to Hyperion in the last settlement.
We go on and on, but the bottom line is, don't be surprised if adult amigans that grew up professionally with it (accelerator cards, RTG, mediators and whatnot) and understand that the abandonment of magic chipsets, was inevitable, see the X1000 as a new Amiga workstation, they weren't using such chipsets since for-ever anyway (they used their Picasso, V-Lab Motion and Video Toasters instead) and they would love to use a modern one again (some might chose MOS which is also an excellent choice with great merit).
Saying "it's no amiga" because of the absence of magical chipsets, with how the world evolved since then, it's rather pointless quite frankly.
AOS MOS and AROS machines, are Amiga, not 1985 console Amiga, but NG Amiga personal computers that allow you (or "aim to" as a future goal) to do modern computing the Amiga way.
I know the "Amiga way" for many here has just been insert the floppy and auto-load the game, but for many others it was more than that. NG Amigas are aimed at this second group.
@pyromania
it is unfortunate that the majority of AOS4 users went away, and it doesn't help that there are more MOS and AROS users posting at AW than here.
When we talk next gen I see more pluralism there due to the above simple fact, here however there is the healthiest classic users population, which makes this a very popular site nonetheless.
Things can improve though, like me, many AOS4 users would post here if we avoid doing what i told TMHM above which makes things ugly and scares away back comers (MHO of course).
Anyway, I for starters am here to stay
