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Re: Things are getting strange ...
« Reply #29 on: February 26, 2002, 01:34:05 PM »
A few stories ago i said "Maybe thats what bill will be announcing - regarding the announcement he will make at embedded confrence (or whatever it is)".

:) Garry has said that they are going to be at their booth and that they asked Amiga Inc to demo some stuff.

Has anyone noticed how similar .NET is to Elate in technology?

Maybe Bill approached Bill and said, with your help we could squash SUN. Bill would have loved that :)...

Bill prolly found Bill through his connections at Gateway and word got out.

Are we a new memeber of the MS community?

I doubt it >:) - its bollocs, however if all ive said turns to be true , call me pyschic.
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Re: Things are getting strange ...
« Reply #30 on: February 26, 2002, 01:36:14 PM »
Prolly demoing DE (or if my predictions above ar correct, .NET) on PocketPC running WindowsCE. :)
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Re: Things are getting strange ...
« Reply #31 on: February 26, 2002, 01:50:39 PM »
I hate microsoft products, working with them every day ( as a sw developer ) and wanted to change. Brrr. I'm afraid it won't happen. If Amiga Inc. becomes a M$ slave this will be a disaster...

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PS: sorry for strong worsds, I have had to say "I mean different abou Microsoft" :-)
 

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Re: Things are getting strange ...
« Reply #32 on: February 26, 2002, 02:01:35 PM »
There is a former MS employee who work inside AMIGA Inc. Perhaps he is the mole. Another possibility: AMIGA DE /INTENT was sponsored by INTEL (MS partner), because of its agreement on Xscale (the  CPU of PDAs).

This remind me of the beautiful DEVIL (Liz Hurley) in the movie: BEDAZZLED. :-(
 

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Re: Things are getting strange ...
« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2002, 03:58:14 PM »
Yeah, great to see the DE finally catching some hype and attracting more coders  :-D
 

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Re: Things are getting strange ...
« Reply #34 on: February 26, 2002, 05:37:42 PM »
Sorry for being Anon people. I'm just too lazy to
register right now to make one small comment. :)

But all i've read since Amiga said they will have
a booth is gloom and doom and talk of takeovers.
Christ wake up. Yeah, M$ would love to get ahold
of the DE but fact is they can't and they arent
trying to. They are just showing the DE running
on a bunch of devices. Which we all knew and
expected the DE would do! How many OS's does the
DE already run on? Amiga (4.x), Windows, Linux,
MAC never made it, how many else? Not to mention
the devices its capable of running.

How does that translate into a takeover? Which
btw aint possible since Amiga is privately held.

Lets not forget that M$ worked with Amiga BEFORE
with Amiga BASIC. But admitedly it was a pile of
horse S|-|!7. They didn't steal Amiga from C= did
they. Why not sell a licence to M$ to use the DE
and charge em an arm and a leg for the privledge?
Hell, i'd love to see the DE packaged with WinXP
and every other OS out there.

Even then, nothing has been said other than,
"Look! It runs on this device." All this talk
about cash from M$, and contracts is fantasy.
Bill and Fleecy (and the rest of the crew) are
smart enough not to enter into a contract that
in any way shape or form limits thier rights to
controll and market the DE however small. Besides
which, a contract with M$ isn't needed to sell
the DE. They are doing pretty well on thier own.
Maybe, if Amiga is exceptionally lucky, M$ might
want to purchace a license to sell the DE or
package it with some future version of windows,
or write apps for the DE. That dosn't give M$
any controlling interest, or rights.

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Re: This rule
« Reply #35 on: February 26, 2002, 05:42:51 PM »
This is GOOD news as all companys which have bought amiga had went out of busnies maybe MS will buy amiga and go out of bussnies also :) Then we can all say Amiga killed MS :)
 

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Re: Things are getting strange ...
« Reply #36 on: February 26, 2002, 06:50:37 PM »
microsozz must learning how makes a good OS? or is poor on ideas?
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Re: Things are getting strange ...
« Reply #37 on: February 26, 2002, 07:16:16 PM »
Folks,

Now don't go reading more into this than there is.  Amiga are not selling out to M$.  You must also remember that the DE Player has been available on Windows for some time now, as has the SDK.  Many companies demo their products via another companies booth (botths are expensive you know), it's quite common.  Demoing at this show will be a great boost for Amiga.  So what if it will be on PocketPC devices and at the MS booth so as long as more people become aware of what Amiga is doing.

One can get much farther by riding the dragon's tail than walking there on their own.


Cheers,

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Re: Things are getting strange ...
« Reply #38 on: February 26, 2002, 07:36:55 PM »
JAVA is a perfect example of what can happen when M$ "licens" a technology. You ppl want that to happen to AmigaDE?

No I didn't think so...
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Re: Things are getting strange ...
« Reply #39 on: February 26, 2002, 07:47:41 PM »
As everyone is letting their imagination run wild ...... one other option would be that Amiga will be demoing MS Office running on AmigaDE.

 :-o
 

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Re: Things are getting strange ...
« Reply #40 on: February 26, 2002, 08:19:28 PM »
I think Ivan hit it on the head.  This isn't anything special, there just demoing DE on WinCE PDAs etc..

cool
 

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Re: Things are getting strange ...
« Reply #41 on: February 26, 2002, 08:58:18 PM »
I really don't see a problem here. As was previously mentioned, It's not uncommon for software companies to demo their stuff on other companies systems. AmigaDE runs under Windows so if you're going to demo it, you will need to run Windows. To take it a step further, a company that had developed a Photoshop plug-in would have no option but to demo it on Photoshop. To avoid Microsoft would be to avoid the whole issue of DE running under Windows which would be suicide in terms of PR. If they can actually get the opportunity to demo their stuff at the MS booth, they have a garunteed crowd to view it. This crowd will generally take anything they see at an MS display very seriously. Ladies and Gents, this is where Amiga cease to be a small company who's purpose is to take flack from the Amiga community and start to be a real business with the prospect of real customers and real profits.

On a side note, it's interesting that this should come up shortly after the Nokia announcement given this.... http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/24190.html

Also, check out the Registers reaction:http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/5/24209.html
 

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Re: Things are getting strange ...
« Reply #42 on: February 26, 2002, 09:00:56 PM »
Hehe, they've even linked to Amiga.Org - perhaps my email caught their attention! ;)
 

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Re: Things are getting strange ...
« Reply #43 on: February 26, 2002, 11:50:28 PM »
Wow, I didnt expect this much blind negativity so soon? especially when most of you dont know what your talking about?

I may not even *like* microsoft but let me point out a lighter side if I may.

On of the biggest ever fallings of the Amiga, and indeed every other computer platform is lack of useful, industry standard, quality productivity software. If Microsoft have now noticed the AmigaDE, it may lead to them porting IE to start with, Office? I think so, and that in iteslf is one hell of a step forward! When companies understand that Microsoft see value not only the AmigaDE, but how it can benifit the bottom line via platform independence at native CPU speeds, what other world class companies are going to start considering the opprtunity? I believe we could see lightwave make a return, and photoshop in the pipe line, not to mention a few hundred more popular titles on the way.
 

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Re: Things are getting strange ...
« Reply #44 from previous page: February 27, 2002, 12:16:40 AM »
Just wish they'd have linked before the site turned into a construction area. :-(