Amithlon & GFX-cards: any advice?

[Methanoid]

Will a GF7600GT work with VESA modes AND with DVI? I have one but both outputs are DVI. I'd like to keep it in the machine for when I boot into XP and not Amithlon?!?

[cyclinder]

 Hi.

 I use Amithlon with a Geforce4 440MX 64MB.

 I seen that Amithlon users on this thread speak a lot about the Geforce FX 5200.

 The motherboard of my Athlon pc supports AGP up to x2.

 I have found a Geforce FX 5200 for purchase on a local shop, but its AGP x8.

 Do I need an AGP x8 capable motherboard to go along with the  Geforce FX 5200 to use it properly on Amithlon? So I can take advantage of scrolling and RTG games?

 I mean yes, I know the Geforce FX 5200 will work on x2, but what about the speed change on Amithlon? Is AGP x8 needed along with the Geforce FX 5200 to achieve what I need?

 Or will the gfx card (Geforce FX 5200) will just do the same on x2 AGP.


 

 

 

[guest5160]

If the agp voltage is the same on your motherboard and the agp card , x4 or x8 had different architecture in voltage and could damage the gfx card if it's not the same voltage.

tip: there are holes that make gfx cards not fit on different motherboards, but there are always exceptions.

[guest5160]

I have an integrated x1250 ati gfx issue:

odd colors on workbench, flip from two odd palettes on each reboot.

any help?

[humppa]

I mean yes, I know the Geforce FX 5200 will work on x2, but what about the speed change on Amithlon? Is AGP x8 needed along with the Geforce FX 5200 to achieve what I need?

No, you won't notice any difference. AGP/PCI-speed is absolutely neglectable for 2D applications.

[Methuselas]

Hey, I'm just curious, but has anyone tried to use the QuarkTex 3D driver for UAE on Amithlon? I haven't tested it yet, as my Windoze drive took a puke and I had to format my Amithlon drive to use Winders for 3D. It's an Amiga-side driver, but apparently, it brute forces 3D acceleration, through the emulator.

I'm talking out of my @$$ here, but could it theoretically work? I've tested the driver in Win-UAE and it appears to work.

[cyclinder]

 Hi everyone, and humppa thanks for replying.

 I am confused with some matters.

 First of all I got nVidia-1 mode to work, and not VESA-framebuffer.

 That is with kernel 3.10 and I tried 2 AGP graphic cards. That is TNT2 and Geforce 4 440MX.

 To make Geforce 440 work without corrupted workbench graphics and palette distorsion as HeZoR told just earlier on the thread, I had to turn the hardware acceleration off using this command on startup-sequence : p96_accell 0x00.

 That goes after just after setconfig >NIL: to work.

 So I had TNT2 with hardware acceleration as kernel 3.10 sais. I seen this and has no change than a common framebuffer, maybe even slower.

 So, which is a solution for RTG games and such? My Amithlon PC can only do AGP x2, is that good for RTG games?

 TNT2 is ok I think as far as AGP x2 goes and with hardware acceleration on Amithlon, but I seen no improvement on the speed of workbench and to the scrolling on IBrowse.

 Any tip to make Geforce 4 440MX to work on hardware accelarated mode?

 Maybe I need a new mobo and Geforce FX 5200?

 I have a good CPU speed with my current Pentium III/450Mhz Amithlon pc, that is why I speak to make the gfx hardware acceleration mode to work, instead of upgrading the whole pc.

[cyclinder]

I would please like to ask, if the AGP speed affects RTG games on Amithlon.

I mean is AGP x2 Amithlon's top speed for graphics? Amithlon as an emulator can it take advantage of greater AGP speed than AGP x2?

Can it play RTG games faster with AGP X4 or AGP x8 graphic cards?

That is of course using a motherboard that can do both AGP x4 and AGP x8.

[Seiya]

now i'm using amithlon with x800xl agp 8x.

it is very fast on RTG games but very slow in gfx refresh, as x800xl is VESA for current 3.10 kernel.

But i think Bombcrater should fix a problem with 256 MB ati cards.

[Amiten]

Hi all,

some body can explain me how to upgrade my amithlon Kernel Please?

Thanks a lot
Amiten

[fishy_fiz]

Just copy the kernel to your boot partition and edit the amithlon/small boot files and replace "bzimage" with the name of you new kernel. Make sure your grub or whatever youre using is then told to use new the new script.

[Amiten]

Thanks you so much friend but what I have in small file its that
 
emubox.gz init=/linuxrc console_level=0 root=/dev/ram0 initrd=smallird.gz vga=769 ramdisk_size=2310 leavepages=5200
 
and in amithlon the same
 
emubox.gz init=/linuxrc console_level=0 root=/dev/ram0 initrd=bigird.gz vga=769 ramdisk_size=12010 leavepages=7600 crusoe
 
what bzimage you refer friend?
 
then What I do to For example put kernel310 or kernel4
 
Regards

[fishy_fiz]

Sorry, I was going by memory before and was a little wrong.

kern310 init=/linuxrc console_level=0 root=/dev/ram0 initrd=smallird.gz vga=769 ramdisk_size=2310 leavepages=6000

The above should be fine. Just save it as whatever name you like. I called it "test". To load I then just use isolinux loadlin @test. (well actually I have it in my autoexec.bat file). This may be different depending on how you have things setup, but should hopefully enough information for you to work it out

Replace kern310 for kernel4 if that's what youre using.

Feel free to ask for help if you need it

[Amiten]

Ok, I change than now but say something about
 
Image file not found please enter name of kernel
 
I change emubox.gz for kernel310 and the rest of the line in small and amithlon files??
 
What its rong?
 
Thanks friend

[fishy_fiz]

I dont actually use either small or amithlon. Theyre just small scripts that are called with loadlin. "Loadlin @small" for example will use the script "small". The script "small" tells loadlin what to use.

If you notice the start of the line I showed you is exactly the same apart from emubox.gz being replaced with kern310 (plus I added a little to the leavepages number at the end.)

Make sure youve copied kernel 3.10 to the same place you have emubox.gz and that the start of the script line is the same as the actual name of the kernel (ie. if youve just copied my line make sure kernel 3.10 is called kern310 (or change accordingly).
To use kernel4 just replace the start of the script with the name of kernel4.

[Amiten]

Sorry not understan,
 
 
can I do rename kernel310 to emubox.gz ?? and see what happens?
 
thanks a lot
 
re edit:
 
I rename kernel310 and kernel4 and of course the system crash
 
Really I dont know what to do thanks for the help anyway fishy_fiz
 
Regards