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Title: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: KingTutt on December 13, 2002, 07:32:25 AM
Some of the more impressive games I've ever seen on Amiga were from the venerable Cinemaware (http://www.cinemaware.com) contributions. Games like It came from the Desert and Defender of the Crown[/i] were truly amazing games for their time and unfortunately gamelplay like that hasn't been recaptured in the games of today. Much to the detriment of the gaming industry. But thankfully this ol skool Game developer is back (http://www.cinemaware.com/forum).

Its good to see some older companies like Interplay and Maxis(responsible for the terrific Battle Chess series and the recent Fallout games, and who can forget the Sim City series still going strong today). Personally, I would love to see them make another title like Battle Chess but with exceptional gfx rendered on the A1. If I'm not mistaken Interplay made the classic Marble Madness title, an upto date rendition of this masterpeice would be in order too, for A1. And with the potential gfx capabilities of today, I'm sure they could make a spectacular effort.

Can anyone remember California Games' offering of the Street Rod series[/i]. If anyone knows anything about these two titles, It's that nothing in recent times has come close to equal the sheer scope of this ambitious little title of yesteryear. Car management at its best and racing for pinks was a marvel to behold. There is a site dedicated by diehard Street Rod fans. Some of you might be interested in knowing that they intend on resurrecting the series by coding a 3rd installment (http://www.streetrod3.com/), with the contributions of the scene of course. It wouldn't be such a bad idea if Hyperion of Amiga Inc, threw a little doe their way to help the cause and get a higher quality product done for the A1 platform. Mind you it would be a worthwhile venture, especially when done right with the guidance of bigger players like Amiga Inc or Hyperion.

Armed with new renditions of It came from the Desert, Defender of the Crown (http://Cinemaware.com)[/b], Street Rod III (http://www.streetrod3.com/), and Marble Madness 2, or Battle Chess 3, (http://www.interplay.com/)[/i][/url] how can AmigaOne go wrong?!

Other games that spring to mind that really set the standard for me were  Shadow of the Beast, Superfrog, Alienbreed, Turrican and Syndicate I can see Superfrog being redone ala Mario Bros for GameCube or perhaps the Zool series as well. Shadow of the Beast on the other hand was done by Psygnosis (a now semi-defunct company, responsible for the immortal Lemmings series). These could be the compelling titles to add value to a new A1 games catalogue.

Alienbreed by Team 17 (who brought you Worms) was another classic for me. This could be continued and brought forward as the first true FPS under the new AmigaOne banner. And who could forget the Turrican series, Amiga's own Metroid Prime, perhaps? These are the games that Amiga users will identify with. They are like the timeless icons that represent what Amiga gaming was to Amigans, not unlike Mario Bros is to Nintendo, or Grand Turismo for Sony Playstation. And may I say that gaming icons for Amigans are just as important, as they instil a sense that the Amiga platform isn't a dead has been gaming platform.

I can also see Syndicate, as AmigaOne's answer for GTA3. If anyone thinks back carefully to the premise behind Syndicate, it was about a worldwide organisation of Secret mechanical agents interacting with a futuristic city in isometric view. This could be reworked as a 3D title, ala GTA3, with the same futuristic setting, and car interaction as with the first two installments in the series.

Hopefully these don't remain pipe dreams, in a well intentioned, yet nostalgic Amigan! I await your thoughts and pipe dreams fellow Amigans.  :-D I know there has to be some bright ideas (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=536)[/url] for new unique Amiga-ish games from you lot, We need to remain distinguishable from the rest if we are to offer something unique to the market  :-D I would hate to see the new Amiga, as a dumping ground for old ported past PC hits!  :-(  We need our thunder back, and we need to look at our gaming roots to accomplish this! We must reclaim our gaming soveignty as Amigans!
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: Ayashoka on December 13, 2002, 08:01:35 AM
Seeing all those titles sure brings back good memories of old times... [sigh]

But since we live in the present:
You will need some of the big running titles ported, even if it was just to provide people with up-to-date games or titles that are in the news.

Next would be recruiting some of the former softwarehouses-Team 17, etc.
But then again the best games are often the ones that pop up from nowhere and suprise you.

Focus at gameplay/story/fun - more than often it's visuals these days. Visuals OK-but 100% eye candy??
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: Ilwrath on December 13, 2002, 08:11:36 AM
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Focus at gameplay/story/fun - more than often it's visuals these days. Visuals OK-but 100% eye candy??


Yeah, but boy would I love to have modern eye-candy (and framerates and steering control) on a StuntCar racer.  Throw in some Internet play, and I'd be hooked in an instant.

I LOVED Street Rods, and thanks for the link to SR3, though it looks like it's quite rough at the moment, for sure!
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: Desolator on December 13, 2002, 08:48:35 AM
After the miserable failure with Syndicate Wars, I'd like to see a new version of the original one...

and Hired Guns! The sequel got ditched. :\
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: JurassicCamper on December 13, 2002, 08:54:13 AM
I'd love to see Warp 3D versions of:-

BMX Simulator
Super Skidmarks
Extreme Racing
Outrun
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: lionstorm on December 13, 2002, 09:05:37 AM
Sensible soccer and final whistle, dynablaster, and a multiplayer version of cannon fodder, a remake of formula one grand prix or stunt car, both multiplayers.
LionStorm
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: Wolfe on December 13, 2002, 09:09:13 AM
Stuntcar Racer for sure!  Plus
Populous enhanced for the net
Nuclear War - add Bush, Sadam, Clinton and a host of others
Lord Of The Rising Sun with more realtime action
Battle Chess with more armies
Alien Breed
Chaos Engine

But to name a few

My daughter says Rainbow Island
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: Quixote on December 13, 2002, 09:26:19 AM
;-) A networked version of Worms would be nice...
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: Kay on December 13, 2002, 09:48:01 AM
This is very good! A lot of great ideas floating around here! And you know what? I believe that the Amiga CAN regain it's gameing supremacy within a few years. Not by means of having 50 man teams and billion-dollar budgets, but by originality. My favorites so far is Alien Breed, It Came From The Desert and Syndicate. These games offered so much in terms of fun and gameplay, and there are no new games quite like them. Another couple of ideas:
Supercars 2 - Where the hell did the top-down racers go? These games were awesome, and SC2 was a brilliant example of one. Still fun, still able to impress people who hasn't seen it before.
Pirates! - Because Pirates! still is one of the best games in excistence. There have been attempts at similar games, but none so far has managed to capture the original's gameplay.

I think it is time we got off our butts. I think there are quite a few of us who has something to contribute. I'll start designing, and hopefully I'll be able to produce something worthwhile. In time I'll probably need at least three more people (a coder, a graphics artist, and a musician) to make it reality, but at least I'll have a start.

Kay
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: Wilse on December 13, 2002, 10:11:13 AM
What about Cannon Fodder, Settlers and Sensible Soccer?
Then there's Worms, Flashback, Wing Commander and Beneath A Steel Sky.
I'm getting seriously nostalgic now.
 :-)
I have to agree with the shouts for a new version of Stunt Car Racer though. That game was class.

@Kay:
>  In time I'll probably need at least three more
>  people (a coder, a graphics artist, and a musician)

Gimme a shout when you need a musician. ;-)
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: jumpship on December 13, 2002, 11:14:09 AM
The one I would love to see is Liberation (aka Captive 2). I had soooo much fun with that game! Would be great to see it re-made with full accelerated 3d graphics!

Maybe the Eye of the Beholder series, again in 3D?
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: jumpship on December 13, 2002, 11:15:11 AM
@Wilse

Now Wingcommander would be cool! Get the whole series back onto the Amiga ;-)
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: Wolfe on December 13, 2002, 11:25:48 AM
A network version of Worms would rock!

This is bringing about a nastalgic feeling, so much so that this weekend is going to be full of classic gaming.  Fun fun fun...

A few more for the list: Axe of Rage, Wings, 1942 and Ghosts and Goblins. :-D
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: xeron on December 13, 2002, 11:29:53 AM
(http://www.goodolddays.net/amiga/shots/stuntcar.gif)
 :-D
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: on December 13, 2002, 11:51:15 AM
An improved version of MARBLE MADNESS would
be a "VERY GOOD THING" (tm)  :-D
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: whabang on December 13, 2002, 11:59:44 AM
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Tickly wrote:
(http://www.goodolddays.net/amiga/shots/stuntcar.gif)
 :-D

I love you, man!
 :-D
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: xeron on December 13, 2002, 12:36:45 PM
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I love you, man!


Heh.. I can't take credit for the GIF i'm afraid, I found it on a google image search...
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: Chunder on December 13, 2002, 12:38:10 PM
Ooooooh, YEAH! :-)

The ones already voted for which I'd agree with...

* Syndicate! Woo!
* Stunt Car Racer
* Sensible Soccer
* Alien Breed (one of the original top-down ones)

Other ones that I think would be good...

* Cannon Fodder (anyone reckon that this'd work as an FPS? Could be entertaining if it retained the comedy...)
* Alternate Reality: The City
* IK+
* Capital Punishment
* Alien Breed 3d2

/me wipes nostalgic tear from eye... :-)
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: Desolator on December 13, 2002, 12:49:20 PM
"Supercars 2 - Where the hell did the top-down racers go?"

Try Death Rally on the PC... then convert it to the A1. :)
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: GadgetMaster on December 13, 2002, 01:05:46 PM
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* Cannon Fodder (anyone reckon that this'd work as an FPS? Could be entertaining if it retained the comedy...)


No need to spoil it with an FPS conversion.

Cannon Fodder is a classic and can only be improved by adding network play.

If you agree with me go and sign the Cannon Fodder Online Petition (http://www.petitiononline.com/cfo/) :-D
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: KingTutt on December 14, 2002, 06:58:07 AM
Great ideas you guys, Keep 'em coming. I sure hope we see some of these games realized on the A1.

@Kay

I can whip up some pretty mean artistic designs for some game ideas too. And I'm gonna try my hand at the A1 gfx packages when i get a chance. So give me a holler when you want buddy.

And the minute I get familiar with A1 programming, I'm gonna try my hand at a 3D rendered Supercars remake!!! I'm thinking of maintaining it top down view as the classic, but with the added eye candy of 3D models, should be a reasonable challenge. Or I may try my hand at a Marble Madness inspired game, something like Spindizzy worlds but using the Warp 3D engine or OpenGL.

Expect some impressive classic inspired titles from me in the future. If no one else picks up the job that is.
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: XDelusion on December 14, 2002, 07:10:42 AM
Genetic Species...

...it's open source.


 DOOM Legacy, cause we already had vanilla DOOM, now lets hit the next level!

 And it's open source. :)
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: lempkee on December 14, 2002, 08:08:02 AM
heh, guys guys.. the best top down racer ever made is by EX.liquid design (who made slamtilt) and its called "IGNITION" its on pc only, amiga version got sacked ;(
(now there is a game for a1 , seriously this is a SUPERB game)

anyway i would like to add a few things , shadow of the beast 1,2,3 wasnt made by psygnois, only published by them, the team is REFLECTIONS (driver/driver2/stuntman etc), secondly psygnosis is SONY now, and a rather bad team, reflections left and so did DMA design (walker,lemmings,gta1,2,3 etc)

Team 17 is a horrible team now, not a single good "SPECIAL" title since worms really, look at pc.....or psx/ps2 ..horrible...all the great stuff gone one way...look great play bad...tou nightlong is good.
btw team17 is publishing ACID's SKIDMARKS CONSTRUCTION KIT btw (pc).

For cinemaware games, no prob any interested guy can get the sources faster than i say hey! if they join up the all new "CLICKBOOM" , yeah u might go...oh no...they will screw us....no seriously they wont, consider it!! as they wants coders for cinemaware games and "666" and "Z" , their catalouge of pc games is on their site, and they are mac/pc double bundle cds, an amiga port (a1) would be horrible easy.

For StreetRod and Stuntcar racer , first of all wasnt there supposed to arrive Stuntcar racer 3d officially?, was it stopped??, last i read about it was +3 months ago , for streetrod 3 , well remeber we live in the 2002/3 now, and such a game wouldneed to be modified alot (not only gfx) and addedalot of new stuff, anyone particular interested after i mention that? :)

on top of all, a potential game would be a plattform game (OH NO!) but yes seriously that would sort of set us abit back in time and we all should more or less know that a1 roxx  :)
a game with 3d , not MARIO 3d ####....linear like crashbandicoot, ie a friendly game and not as confusing as many of the horrible games now 'a days...

BUt what we need the most is maybe the easyest to make :) , a real puzzler ala bust a move/bubble heroes (yes i know an a1 version is in development) ...maybe in 3d?...

but the game i want the most is "IGNITION" by UDS (swedish), should be a rather easy port, game is from 1997? and is asm as far as i remeber...

and for FPS games, wellwe only need one and thats UNREAL TOURNAMENT (yeah the first one) , and i think epic has now earned enough on this game, maybe a port would be rather cheap?........

oh btw, why havent anyone started "IF YOU SUPPORT AOS4" campaign then we will "PUBLISH THE GAME FOR YOU" , that would really help,as publishing is expensive (i know as i'm a developer myself, atleast if u want highstreet stuff ala clickboom/epic marketing etc....
If such a deal will be made, ok....then i would release our titles asap!

btw MOs has RAGE HARD (r whatever its called) ,i think aos also should have atleast one SPECIAL amiga title (only for os4) to be on its release date,but this require fundings and a good crew (who would work hard) , too little time? , no....not really...no hw to develop it on? ...naaah no prob....

feel free to email me.....

tony/push entertainment
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: Waccoon on December 14, 2002, 08:13:52 AM
Without a doubt:

Infestation! -- Such a cool idea well ahead of its time, plagued by a lack of enemies and really slow 3D graphics.  With a robust redesign, this game would be KILLER on new hardware!

Armour Geddon -- Big, deep, lots of vehicles, "multitasking" gameplay, real time events (day & night)... the list goes on.

Day of the Viper -- Infestation meets Dungeon Master, I think.  A resource management game to heart.

Log!cal -- The ultimate marbles game.  Maybe a freebee AmigaDE version?  But, it has to have a great soundtrack, like the original game.

Sideshow -- A little known title.  Visit a carnival and play booth games for tickets and food.  Harmless, addictive fun!  I still play this one a lot on my 1200.

Stunt Car Racer -- For sure!  It amazes me that with all of today's hyper 3D technology and sophisticated physics engines, that nobody can make a stunt racing game!  What ever happened to classics like SCR, and the arcade version of Hard Drivin'?  Everyone just wants to make the next cheezy verion of Need for Speed or Test Drive!  AAAAAARRGH!

Wings -- But, it must have a great story.  Red Baron II was a bit TOO realistic to be fun, Knights of the Sky was too cheezy, and Dawn Patrol was impossible to play.  Wings was just classic gaming at its finest!

Titus the Fox -- No, no... just kidding!
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: Waccoon on December 14, 2002, 08:27:36 AM
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shadow of the beast 1,2,3 wasnt made by psygnois, only published by them

As far as I know, the Psygnosis brand is dead and will no longer release any titles.  It was a hot sale when PlayStation was a new machine, but respectable titles dried up after the "Wipeout Sellout", and they haven't been very active, since.

Reflections really went downhill, too.  Destruction Derby 2 was an awful sequel to the awesome original, Driver was lackluster in all respects given the fresh genre, and Stuntman was frustrating as all hell (I'm SO glad I only rented it)!  I wish they'd lay off the driving games for a while.

Team 17 was never really that good to begin with.  ProjectX pissed me off to no end, and their earlier titles just seemed to lack serious design in favor of zippy controls and great graphics.  Allistair Brimble was a real talent, though.

Most of my favorite games have been released by one-hit-wonders.  I think that says a lot about the developers, rather than the publishers.  They got together to make a title, they made a great game, and then they moved on to other jobs.  Oh well.
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: RedWarrior on December 14, 2002, 08:55:45 AM
I've been repeating myself on this line for years... so why stop now?

Would love to see Shadow Of The Beast on a new machine...  if any platform could scroll like the old A500- I'll buy 10 of them!

;)

Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: KingTutt on December 14, 2002, 12:13:38 PM
Hey guys, I been doing a little searching for some Amigan ol skool style gameplay, but with new gfx game engines.

Just because your keeping with the old, doesn't mean you can't employ a little Warp3D/OpenGL magic for the A1, now does it?

Here's one potential scenario, I'm thinking of following as a model (http://gamespy.com/ondemand/indie/games/bhs/) for some of my early ventures, I may want to write for the A1. Should be a good way to start off some quick and dirty programming for the A1 scene, just as a way of testing the waters. The way I see it, we could use some quick and dirty games keeping with the traditional gameplay of yesteryear Amigas, just to play as our OS4 equivalent to Solitaire.

So what do you guys think? Can someone say Hybris or Silkworm/SWIV remake (http://gamespy.com/ondemand/indie/games/bhs/)  :-D It would be good to see a few little titles like this ship with OS4 as their Solitaire style suite.

If all goes well, I might even try my hand at an elaborate Supercars remake with full OpenGL/Warp3D support, but keeping with the top/down gameplay. Death Rally 2 here I come!
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: Tronn on December 14, 2002, 01:11:22 PM
What we need to do is to start a programming group. You need a couple of experienced C or C++ programmers who are willing to help and guide a bunch of enthusiastic people who want to learn to program their Amiga’s but have never quite got round to it.. The experienced programmers set the lessons and exercises for the beginners to follow.

Learning with a group of others gives people more motivation than learning on your own. As I know having worked my way through well over half of my C++ book only to lose interest.:-(

A forum could be setup for the lessons and exercises and also for questions and problems to be posted to. I’ve seen this done in programming forums but never Amiga specific. We could have the next group of Amiga app/games programmers right here.:-)

Also you end up with a forum full of lessons, exercises and questions that other beginners can follow later on. Or other programming groups can be started later on that follow in the original groups' foot steps.

Just my 2p worth.:-)

Edit: The end of the course could involve porting an app to the Amiga. :-D
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: MAD on December 14, 2002, 01:13:16 PM
Hoya!

@Lionstorm

Erm.... Bomber Man/DynaBlaster multiplayer DOES exist on Amiga!!!
Have a look dynAMIte, by the brilliant AmigaZeux team! :-)

http://amisource.de/dynamite

Be funky!!!

M A D
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: ikir on December 14, 2002, 01:50:02 PM
The shadow of the third moon
Stunt Car Racer
Turrican 3D
Cannon Fodder 3D

 :-D
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: ikir on December 14, 2002, 01:52:53 PM
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Tickly wrote:
(http://www.goodolddays.net/amiga/shots/stuntcar.gif)
 :-D


Cool Tickly :-)
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: lempkee on December 14, 2002, 02:01:51 PM
psygnosis still lives with wipeoutr fusion on ps2 , and a few other titles, but yes i agree alot onwhat u said.

but then again, DRIVER and stuntman aint bad games at all and i completed all 3 of em but yes stuntman made methroew the controller a few times.

Anyway i wont say reflections is a bad team after theese 3 games, as if u look at em ...they was all groundbreaking (GTA3is a CLONE of Driver games more or less)
but then again u might dont like em, easy as that...

ProjectX is a overrated game , i have completed both versions + px2 (X2) (ps.one) and px is great but also horrible,but X2 on playstation must be the worst game i have played ever (i expected too much and got a mediocre game)

oh btw... T-ZERO is more my kinda game, not impossible , slick and have great music while playing....swiv is great, deluxe galaga is great , jim power is great , puggsy is great...etc

tony

Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: SlimJim on December 14, 2002, 02:05:00 PM
@Tronn
 
This is a very interesting idea. Problem is finding a sufficiently
skilled programmer willing to put down that much of his/her
time and effort just for the heck of it.
.
SlimJim
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: ruffneck on December 14, 2002, 03:12:47 PM
Gloom... GPX as it is, gameplay as it is, tcp multiplayer, teamplay/ctf, multiple weapons, improved level/model editor. Gloom clans:)
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: mikeymike on December 14, 2002, 03:34:38 PM
1 -  Populous II
2 - Some platform games, like Switchblade, a genre seemingly forgotten since 3D graphics came into its own.
3 - SWOS
4 - Worms, the original version
5 - Shadow of the Beast 1 and 2 - just a little less impossible to complete this time :-)

oh, and:

6 - Desert Strike.  A new shiny smooth version.  Just right for the current political climate :-)

and I don't believe anyone hasn't suggested this yet:

7 - Speedball II :-)
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: Glaucus on December 14, 2002, 05:36:17 PM
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What we need to do is to start a programming group. You need a couple of experienced C or C++ programmers who are willing to help and guide a bunch of enthusiastic people who want to learn to program their Amiga’s but have never quite got round to it.. The experienced programmers set the lessons and exercises for the beginners to follow.


If the experienced Amiga programmers could get together and create an on-line book on how to program the Amiga, that would be great!  We need lots of example code too.  Sure Aminet has a bunch but we need it collected and organized and make it  easy to access.

  - Mike
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: Glaucus on December 14, 2002, 05:40:18 PM
Am I the only one who loved DUNGEON MASTER?!?!?  That's a game that should be re-done for the A1.

But I think the Amiga was famous for it's shoot 'em ups so I few high end shooters would be nice.

But really, I think the future of gaming is networked play and I'd love to see the Amiga go into that as well.

  - Mike
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: The_Editor on December 14, 2002, 06:04:16 PM
So why cant we make a multiple scenario/genre type game ?  Say ..5 cd's worth with vastly different, but storylined games ?

Start at space academy and progress to Elite... land and trade and get caught up in a Damocles situation... whereby you need to buy/nick a stunt car racer to blitz through all kinds of obsticles to rescue fair maid in distress whereby you take her aboard your intergalactic cruiser for some sexual gratification ...  :-o   oops .. getting carried away there!!

You get my drift ... Why stop at one style when you can interlink adventures?
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: Helgis75 on December 14, 2002, 06:06:12 PM
 aGreat thoughts, but it seems a little bit pointless in making another new 2D-version of these games. They would have to be done to 3D. Anyway, having a transparent UAE intergrated to AmigaOS would allow AmigaOne-users to play all classic Amiga-games. It's time for the future now, and we need demanding and great 3D-games :-D

Games like Jedi Knight 1-2, Soldier Of Fortune 1-2, Wolfenstein Return To The Castle and many, many more...as well as excellent applications...

Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: The_Editor on December 14, 2002, 06:08:36 PM
I said

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whereby you take her aboard your intergalactic cruiser for some sexual gratification


Where she screams " Grape" (there was a bunch of em ) And then the federalis are after you !!
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: DeXXo on December 14, 2002, 06:57:19 PM
I would love to see again : pirates!, dynablaster (spent days with  playing this one with my friends ), lotus (great fun when 4 players hit the streets), SF II,  Civ, the Secret of Monkey Island, Yo! Joe! (great with 2 players) ,Midnight Restitance (great music and gameplay) and so many more...

<---  And of course SOTB ...
Check it out : http://kickme.to/sotb --->  this guy is working on SOTB 3D
 :-o  :-o  :-o
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: on December 14, 2002, 07:44:27 PM
Conversions:

Monkey Island 3 and 4 would be nice to have on AmigaOne. It definitely has the power.

Doom 3

Wipeout Fusion perhaps?

Grand Theft Auto: Vice City

Soldier Of Fortune 1 & 2

Theme Hospital

Rollcage 1 & 2

Unreal Tournament

Metal Gear Solid

Tomb Raider anthology

The Matrix (oh yes)

Colin McRae Rally 3

Prince Of Persia 3D

Worms Blast

Half Life

Return To Castle Wolfenstein

AmigaOne updates:

Lemmings (like Lemmings Revolution on PC)
Theme Park (like Theme Park World)
Genetic Species (the Amigas answer to Quake 3?)
Heretic II
Shogo
Tales From Heaven (the Amiga Mario?)
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Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: on December 14, 2002, 07:48:01 PM
Oh...I almost forgot:

Resident Evil 1, 2, 3
Sim City 3000
Lost Vikings 2
Bloodnet
Premier Manager
Coala
TFX
Shadow Of The Beast

Gloom 4?
Xenon 4?
Super Skidmarks 3?
 :-P
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: Rudei on December 14, 2002, 08:18:09 PM
Pinball Fantasies!!!

I agree with SmartAlec on some of those games; if we could get some of the "Net" games such as Half-life, latest Quake / Doom and Unreal Tournament and be able to play against PC users that would assist our cause as it would demonstrate that the A1 could cut it!  I mean, aren`t these games heavily reliant on the GFX card thats plugged in rather than what processor is running the show?
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: The_Editor on December 14, 2002, 08:28:57 PM
But why would anyone change to Amiga Compatible computers if the games available are only ports from the platform that they already have ?

No ...

Something original .. A new way to play games...

Its all about gameplay..

That why I mentioned the interlinked gaming concept

Hey ...I.G.C.    Kewl sounding Acronym  :-D   *uck, I'm a genius   :-o
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: KingTutt on December 15, 2002, 03:53:27 AM
I agree with The_Editor, we need our own unique style, not rehashed PC has-beens. Pu-leeze, give the Amiga scene a little more credit. We have the originality, right?

And besides the A1 needs its own identity. Seeing it as a PC-wannabe, just kills the whole purpose of relaunching itself into the computer scene, it would never establish any credibility for itself this way amongst new and old gamers.

I would rather prefer a few dozen well written games to the level of Cinemaware's (http://cinemaware.com) It Came from the Desert or Wings for the A1 platform and know they were labors of Love (written by true Amigans) with enough orginality to keep them distinct and seperate from the mainstream crapola, than an endless supply of Quake clone cookie cutter titles with no spirit whatsoever.

Well thats my $0.02... so who else agrees with me? Should A1 focus on new and exciting products or rehashed PC ports from 2 or 3 years ago?
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: Kay on December 15, 2002, 12:24:17 PM
> Should A1 focus on new and exciting products or rehashed PC ports from 2 or 3 years ago?

Both, I think.

Kay
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: mikeymike on December 15, 2002, 05:15:33 PM
UFO: Enemy Unknown

(without memory leaks)

:-)
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: Kay on December 18, 2002, 10:44:23 PM
Oh, here's one I didn't think of earlier: Uropa². This type of game is great fun, and there are far to few examples of it. The only similar games I know of is D\Generation and the Crusader series on the PC. I know there was a team working on a game some time ago, but I haven't heard anything about it lately...

It would be great if someone would make a game like this for the AmigaOne. Heck, even porting the Crusader series would be pretty nice. :-)

Kay
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: Darrin on December 19, 2002, 12:25:13 AM
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by mikeymike on 2002/12/15 11:15:33

UFO: Enemy Unknown


Oh yeah!!!  One of my UFO AGA disks died and I looked everywhere for an ADF file to recreate my "diseased" disk with no avail (the ECS versions are posted everywhere).  Then I was lucky enough to come across a PC CD ROM containing UFO:  EU, UFO: TFTD and UFO: A for $10!!!  I still play the first 2 at work on a regular basis and the least said about the third "offering" the better (damn, it sucks like a priest at choir practice).  One problem with the PC disk is that the first one has a habbit of crashing every so often when it tries to display the mission statistics screen after the last alien is killed, so you have to save the game on a regular basis (I've tested this on 5 different PC's).

Anyway, the first 2 UFO games are prime examples of classic games that only require a little spit-n-polish to bring them up to date... and I don't mean making them 3D shooters.

The success of games like Diablo 2 and Civilization 3 proove that you don't need to write a 3D virtual shooter in order to sell software.
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Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: Marky_D_Sahd on December 19, 2002, 12:48:10 AM
Hey, Ed, how 'bout a little of BOTH??  I would LOVE to have Riven, the Cinemaware catalogue, SimsBoing, and new stuff.  (Notice, I don't want much)  Question is, what can we get first?  And how much?  

Hey, EYETECH-- How do those advance sales look?  Do we have a base to stand on?????
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: KingTutt on December 19, 2002, 12:52:10 AM
I'm not entirely familiar with the UFO series. Can someone post the order and the premise behind each title, a little brief note on the gameplay would be nice too.

I don't know if this is a misconception of mine. But I always thought some game called XCOM was also a series that closely resembled the UFO series. Of course I know nothing of either series or if they aren't indeed one in the same. Can someone enlighten me on the frachise and which platform they were released on at what years etc (and whether they made it to Amiga classic or AGA, and if they were better than their PC counterpart). Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: on December 19, 2002, 05:55:48 AM
You named my favorite game first in your post. I couldn't get enough of "It Came From The Desert".

It took a while for me to be able to get through the whole thing since I was moving and such, but I loved the rich sound and graphics that were offered to carry the story while I was playing.

It was also a very nice way to vent my anger at the REAL ANTS that decided to move into my house a week after I started renting a place in the Californian High Desert.

I really hope that it's one that is found on the next generation of Amiga.
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: DonnyEMU on December 19, 2002, 06:02:58 AM
I of course wanna see the following:

Arkanoid
Shadow of the Beast
Marble Madness
Deluxe Paint
Deluxe Music
Dungeon Master
Lemmings
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: DonnyEMU on December 19, 2002, 06:04:29 AM
And how could I forget:

The Faery Tale Adventure
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: Darrin on December 19, 2002, 06:12:59 PM
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KingTutt wrote:
I'm not entirely familiar with the UFO series. Can someone post the order and the premise behind each title,


XCOM and UFO - Enemy unknown are the same game.  For some reason it was referred to as XCOM in the USA and UFO-EU in Europe.

If I remember right, the PC version and the Amiga AGA version came out about the same time.  The games are virtually identical except that the PC version adds a "darkness" effect so that in a low-light mission the terrain is brighter around your troops'  field of vision allowing aliens to hide in the shadows.  However, the sound on the Amiga version is better.

Much later, Microprose managed to hack down the game enough so that it would run on an ECS Amiga, but it looks UGLY!!!

The sequal, UFO-Terror from the Deep, never made it to the Amiga, but sold very well on the PC.  The gameplay is very similar and the graphics improved.

Both XCOM and UFO-TFTD were MS DOS games, but the third game, XCOM-Apocalypse came out for Winzdoze.  Unfortunately, XCOM-A looks and feels completely different the first 2 games and I've never been able to "get into it".

There is a fourth (and final?) game called XCOM-Interceptor which I believe is a 3D space combat game where you get to take the fight to the Aliens.  I've never played it so I can't really comment on it.

Hasbro Interactive have release a compilation CD for the PC containing the first three games called "X-COM Collector's Edition" with the first 2 games now "supposedly" updated to run on Windoze.  I say "supposedly" because I've tested the first game on 5 different PC's (eMachines, HP x 2, Compaq, Dell) running Win98 and ME, with differnt graphics cards and they are all prone to random crashing when the game attempts to change screen modes.  No update/patch is available on the Hasbro website.  Your only option is to keep saving the game so you don't have to backtrack too far into the game when it goes down.

I hope this helps :-)
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: KingTutt on December 19, 2002, 11:06:38 PM
Man!, this sounds like the kind of series that needs to be remade for the A1, with updated 2D gfx. I would sure play it. Sounds like a cool premise too.

Thanks Darrin. Maybe I'll go get the AGA version now.
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: XDelusion on December 21, 2002, 09:46:59 PM
 Well we had the original Castlevania (a crappy version of it), so why not continue the series with White Night Concerto, or Harmoney Of Dissonence? Wait, better yet! The long lost Castlevania for the Dreamcast, or Robdo Of Blood which only made it to TurboCD in Japan!! :)
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: on December 21, 2002, 10:14:25 PM
Hate to ruin everything, but Lemmings ain't gonna happen as they Psygnosis was sold to sony waaay back in 1993.

Some Cinemaware games would be excellent, ah Rocket Ranger and It Came From The Desert!

Some FPS's from PC would be good ports, and perhaps we could have our own FPS in the mould of Genetic Species, but updated with 128-bit graphics?
Another good conversion would be the updated version of Lotus Turbo, which was recently released on PS2.

Ohhh...and Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six and Rogue Spear!

THE SIMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-D
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: JoannaK on December 22, 2002, 12:09:53 AM
What I would like to see is:

Stunt car racer . With good gfx + multiplayer
M.U.L.E. ... Real good port, no hacks.. (still love original C64 version)
Marble maddness
Sentinel

Hm.,.. Actually I do have much longer list, but those  would be good start :)
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: on December 30, 2002, 09:14:24 PM
M.U.L.E. is fun, but they need to make installing a MULE a little less quirky... I feel like smashing a joystick every time you don't quite get it and the MULE takes off and runs off the edge of the map.
Title: Re: Which classic Amiga games do you want to see remade on the A1
Post by: KingTutt on December 31, 2002, 12:07:32 PM
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Darrin wrote:
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KingTutt wrote:
I'm not entirely familiar with the UFO series. Can someone post the order and the premise behind each title,


XCOM and UFO - Enemy unknown are the same game.  For some reason it was referred to as XCOM in the USA and UFO-EU in Europe.

If I remember right, the PC version and the Amiga AGA version came out about the same time.  The games are virtually identical except that the PC version adds a "darkness" effect so that in a low-light mission the terrain is brighter around your troops'  field of vision allowing aliens to hide in the shadows.  However, the sound on the Amiga version is better.

Much later, Microprose managed to hack down the game enough so that it would run on an ECS Amiga, but it looks UGLY!!!

The sequal, UFO-Terror from the Deep, never made it to the Amiga, but sold very well on the PC.  The gameplay is very similar and the graphics improved.

Both XCOM and UFO-TFTD were MS DOS games, but the third game, XCOM-Apocalypse came out for Winzdoze.  Unfortunately, XCOM-A looks and feels completely different the first 2 games and I've never been able to "get into it".

There is a fourth (and final?) game called XCOM-Interceptor which I believe is a 3D space combat game where you get to take the fight to the Aliens.  I've never played it so I can't really comment on it.

Hasbro Interactive have release a compilation CD for the PC containing the first three games called "X-COM Collector's Edition" with the first 2 games now "supposedly" updated to run on Windoze.  I say "supposedly" because I've tested the first game on 5 different PC's (eMachines, HP x 2, Compaq, Dell) running Win98 and ME, with differnt graphics cards and they are all prone to random crashing when the game attempts to change screen modes.  No update/patch is available on the Hasbro website.  Your only option is to keep saving the game so you don't have to backtrack too far into the game when it goes down.

I hope this helps :-)


Dude, I don't think that Xcom-Interceptor was the last by a long shot. Did some searching and came up with the newest installment to be released.

UFO AFTERMATH (http://www.ufo-aftermath.com/pages/features.html)

and some screenies (http://www.3dgamers.com/screenshots/games/ufoaftermath/) for you UFO series fans! Enjoy.

Yeah we definitely need this series remastered for the A1. It would sure be su-weet! And i would have a hell of a time playing it from the beginning with updated gfx!  :-D