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Re: HxC Floppy Emulator
« Reply #29 from previous page: October 17, 2010, 11:51:03 PM »
Quote from: Jeff_HxC;585368
Rev C (with amiga write support) SD HxC Floppy Emulator Preorder is now open ! :

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180575793600


Thanks for doing another run of these Jeff.  I've been wanting one since the write support was added!  Pre-order placed.
 

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Re: HxC Floppy Emulator
« Reply #30 on: October 18, 2010, 12:18:58 AM »
Ah, so mines are rev B - good to know :)
Maybe you could quickly summarize the differences between the three revisions?

Eidt: OK, from reading a little (hohum) I see that the rev B needs modifications to have write support for amiga, while rev C doesn't. Does that mean that a modified B is identical with a rev C, or is there more? :)
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Re: HxC Floppy Emulator
« Reply #31 on: October 18, 2010, 06:07:51 AM »
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Eidt: OK, from reading a little (hohum) I see that the rev B needs modifications to have write support for amiga, while rev C doesn't. Does that mean that a modified B is identical with a rev C, or is there more? :)

Yes modded rev B = rev C
 

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Re: HxC Floppy Emulator
« Reply #32 on: October 18, 2010, 02:04:08 PM »
I want to make a clear enclosure like this:

 
And I need to know the measurements the A1200 card has. Are they 100x65mm?
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Re: HxC Floppy Emulator
« Reply #33 on: October 23, 2010, 11:48:52 AM »
I would like to know if there's somekind of switch to change between Df0 and Df1 that could be done in an A1200, and a guide to do it if that's possible.
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Re: HxC Floppy Emulator
« Reply #34 on: October 23, 2010, 12:02:07 PM »
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I would like to know if there's somekind of switch to change between Df0 and Df1 that could be done in an A1200, and a guide to do it if that's possible.

Why not take an external 3,5" floppy drive case and build it in there ?
Then take a connector just like the external DF1 connector and place it near the Joystick port 1 (warning label) on an A500 and solder a floppy cable to it and your done.
You can use the DF0 space for a harddrive or CF adapter.
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Re: HxC Floppy Emulator
« Reply #35 on: October 23, 2010, 12:16:51 PM »
I would like to keep the Chinon one inside and adding it outside. I've heard about making a switch to change between Df0 for one or another... and in the A1200 I don't have place to put another floppy output (I'm using the trapdoor under the floppy for USB and an Indivision Aga connector whenever I get one).
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Re: HxC Floppy Emulator
« Reply #36 on: October 23, 2010, 09:14:10 PM »
There's one thing that I like in the HxC project (that others will hate), appart of the use it gives, that is the hackering you have to do to install it. I love that part. Well, I've been thinking how to put it, inside or outside the A1200.
 
I was thinking to make it outside, like the photo of the clear enclosure, I've bought the perspex even. What I was going to do, that the one that did it didn't get to do is to put the buttons and close the box. He wanted to put the screen at the front and the buttons too. My idea if someone wants to do it is very simple: you close the box making a slot at the front side to introduce the Sd card, you leave the screen where it is, which is the best place to see it, and you only have to make three 3mm drills on the upper side of the box, above where the buttons are. Then you can cut three 3mm acrylic clear rods that you pass through the holes, with a drop of loctite over the buttons and you can use that rods as buttons from outside of the box.
 
I think that's a good idea, and didn't want to comment till I had it finished, but thinking well the best way will be to make it internally... Why?
I was thinking why the guy that did that beautiful external HxC floppy in the clear enclosure sold it, and what I believe is that if you find difficult to make the switch to change Df0 from a floppy to the other (I do), and if you want to keep the Chinon one inside working, you will have for example only a couple of games that will play from Df1, that has to be very frustrating.
 
So, what I'm planning to do now is to put it internally, with the same ribbon cable of the floppy with two connectors for both floppys. I have some ideas of how to do it too, that will post when I'll make it.
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Re: HxC Floppy Emulator
« Reply #37 on: October 24, 2010, 02:55:06 AM »
Are there pin headers for the buttons?  That would be helpful for making a custom case since you could easilty put buttons wherever you like.
 

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Re: HxC Floppy Emulator
« Reply #38 on: October 24, 2010, 10:10:12 AM »
Pin headers... no, for what I've seen it has Mitsumi 4 pin buttons (recently I had to change one of the tank style mouse, that's why I know them now), but yes, you can solder a cable on the hole where they plug into, or solder pins and put them wherever you want, but would be too much cables, and with an acrylic or perspex clear rod you don't need to change the position, and it would look beautiful.
 
EDIT: For those that never look the Amiga marketplace forum, look what nice Commodore PC cases are for sale on Ebay:
http://amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=54985
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Re: HxC Floppy Emulator
« Reply #39 on: October 24, 2010, 03:12:24 PM »
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Are there pin headers for the buttons?  That would be helpful for making a custom case since you could easilty put buttons wherever you like.

Yes there are a "front panel" connector on the board with buttons and lcd signals.
For the pinout have a look in the user manual:

http://hxc2001.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/SDCard_HxC_Floppy_Emulator_User_Manual.pdf

@Retrofan : please read the manual for the front panel pinout...
 

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Re: HxC Floppy Emulator
« Reply #40 on: October 24, 2010, 10:41:39 PM »
But for the external clear enclosure you don't need to move anything as I said, and it would mean always more cables that you see on it. In a metallic box or inside the Amiga you can put as much cables as you want, as you don't see them, and yes, it's prepared to solder a header leaving the buttons where they are and put others outside.
 
I've seen this in an abime thread:
"The bad thing with this adapter (as it comes) is that it doesn't have a header for mounting the LCD Display + Buttons externaly. (In my case since I'm gonna install it inside A600 - in Floppy drive's position - I wanted the LCD+buttons somewhere else).
Of course the header place exists along with the signals so I just soldered the header myself.
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EDIT:
I'm still not sure if making it externally or internally. I have to think in the benefits on having the screen (externally) or not (I won't make that hole on the Amiga), and I won't be booting games from Df0, as I use Whdload.
 
I have a dude. Do I need to use the buttons if I put the HxC internally?
Will I need at least the eject button?
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Re: HxC Floppy Emulator
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Re: HxC Floppy Emulator
« Reply #42 on: November 29, 2010, 10:21:16 AM »
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 I have a dude. Do I need to use the buttons if I put the HxC internally?
Will I need at least the eject button?


If you intend to use the file image selector software you just need the "next" button.
Connect this one on the front panel connector. (without removing the on-board buttons ;-) )
 

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Re: HxC Floppy Emulator
« Reply #43 on: December 13, 2010, 12:07:02 PM »
Hi:
On saturday I received my HxC and I've made my own style clear enclosure. It's made to size and I changed the buttons it had and the ribbon cable connector and I put an angled one to avoid having to put more cables inside. For the buttons, as I said I've made 3 longs rods, and for the Sd an slot.
 
So it's closed, not as the one of fitzsteve. Do you like it?
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/5026/abcd0020uk.jpg
« Last Edit: December 13, 2010, 12:16:18 PM by Retrofan »
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Re: HxC Floppy Emulator
« Reply #44 on: December 13, 2010, 12:42:15 PM »
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You just need a pc floppy cable with 3 connector (1 connected to the A1200, 1 to the floppy disk drive, and the last one to the emulator.).

http://openbookconsulting.org/giip/hardware/images/floppy-ribbon-cable.jpg


Will this definitely work on an A1200? You can have your internal Drive as DF0: and the HxC as DF0? - If it does this would make life a lot easyer

Having the HxC as DF1 is pointless

There is some info on EAB about building a switch so you can connect the HxC to the external port and switch between DF0 & DF1

& Nice Case Retrofan and nice to see the updates Jeff :)
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