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HEY JENS!!! Clone-A Progress Report?
« on: January 21, 2010, 05:20:51 AM »
With all the chatter about X-1000's lets not forget one of the coolest projects out there. The clone A. Is Jens out there...? Can you give us an update?

Safe to say THIS is the product I think many of us would buy in a heartbeat.
 

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Re: HEY JENS!!! Clone-A Progress Report?
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2010, 05:23:01 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2010, 05:55:25 AM »
Imagine that Jens has finished CloneA (eg he can create FPGA's for the ECS chipset, maybe even the AGA chipset by now).

Now the question would be how to make any money out of CloneA.  One way would be to release part of the design as a new scandoubler like the IndivsionECS for example.
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Re: HEY JENS!!! Clone-A Progress Report?
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2010, 06:09:47 AM »
Simple answer:
Sell an A4000 Clone-A for 500 USD ;)
 

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Re: HEY JENS!!! Clone-A Progress Report?
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2010, 08:15:30 AM »
I don't think Amiga.org is the place to ask Jens questions anymore, unfortunately. :(

Jens won't be posting here anymore:

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?p=533513#post533513

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Re: HEY JENS!!! Clone-A Progress Report?
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2010, 10:39:44 AM »
Maybe someone can write a polite letter to him and post answer here, I am curious as well.
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Re: HEY JENS!!! Clone-A Progress Report?
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2010, 03:49:09 PM »
im also thinking of leaving,will make my mind up in a few days. i spent a lot of time on my project (just over two and a half years) just to see things not go my way after a lot of research but will help a few users before i decide what to do.
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2010, 04:00:22 PM »
I didn't catch that post until now. I didn't realize Jens was such a political putz (and I am being kind).
Guess I won't be buying any of his stuff any more....  But them, but the time Clone A is done, he may not even ship to us stinking Americans.
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Re: HEY JENS!!! Clone-A Progress Report?
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2010, 04:06:42 PM »
Quote from: Crom00;539496
With all the chatter about X-1000's lets not forget one of the coolest projects out there. The clone A. Is Jens out there...? Can you give us an update?

Safe to say THIS is the product I think many of us would buy in a heartbeat.


IIRC he wasn't able to get a license from Amiga Inc to go ahead with the plans he had in mind, so I wouldn't be surprised if the whole thing got shelved...
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Re: HEY JENS!!! Clone-A Progress Report?
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2010, 04:13:04 PM »
The Denise from Clone-A project is inside the Indivision ECS product.

He shouldn't need a license from Amiga Inc. for the hardware because any patents covering both ECS & AGA have lapsed. It is more than 17 years since they would have been filed.

I guess he needed the license to use the name Amiga
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Re: HEY JENS!!! Clone-A Progress Report?
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2010, 04:30:14 PM »
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I didn't catch that post until now. I didn't realize Jens was such a political putz (and I am being kind).
Guess I won't be buying any of his stuff any more....  But them, but the time Clone A is done, he may not even ship to us stinking Americans.

Just a point, if you only buy products from people that aren't putz's, you're seriously limiting your options.  :lol::lol:

There are lots of people I do business with that I'd never hang out with.

I think an Amiga DTV type of product would be great.  Especially if, like Jeri's, it was expandable with a bit of solder.. :-)  I'm not saying it would sell, that's a marketing thing.  Just that it would be great.  ;-)

As for a computer, that's very tricky.  I'm glad people are working on them, but not sure I'd buy one personally.  It would be tempting, but would depend on price and how well my current Amiga's are working.

I have a computer to browse the web (Heck, I have a Nokia 770 and even a cell phone that will browse the web).  I'm not looking for a 1000Mhz 68k box to run Amiga OS 5.23b4sp6.  I'm into my Amiga for retro-goodness.

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Re: HEY JENS!!! Clone-A Progress Report?
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2010, 04:35:11 PM »
More likely there just isn't any commercial product in a complete clone Amiga system. There is enough NOS A1200/A4000 + working old units to satisfy the Enthusiast Amiga Market... For everyone else there is UAE (and the next gen AOS projects), which in the case of UAE and AROS can be had for free.

How many units do you think Jens could realistically sell? I'd probably get one, and so would a few others... so shall we be generous and say between 40 and 80 units?

Realistically, the CloneA project could probably be realised with a simple board built around TI’s OMAP 3430 processor and Linux running UAE as the user shell. The units could probably be sold for under $100!

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Re: HEY JENS!!! Clone-A Progress Report?
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2010, 04:37:53 PM »
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im also thinking of leaving,will make my mind up in a few days. i spent a lot of time on my project (just over two and a half years) just to see things not go my way after a lot of research but will help a few users before i decide what to do.


your not alone i am also thinking of leaving, the amiga aint what it used to be. the design sukage hard and we dont know who the new owner are. its secrets and untrust like that that kills amiga.
 

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Re: HEY JENS!!! Clone-A Progress Report?
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2010, 04:40:30 PM »
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I didn't catch that post until now. I didn't realize Jens was such a political putz (and I am being kind).
Guess I won't be buying any of his stuff any more....  But them, but the time Clone A is done, he may not even ship to us stinking Americans.


ah c'mon now be nice! we need Jens :-)
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Re: HEY JENS!!! Clone-A Progress Report?
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2010, 05:26:43 PM »
I seriously do not understand why people are leaving or are thinking of....
Why guys ? What is the problem with the new owners ? nothing have changed