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Re: New Scandoubler ready!
« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2008, 01:54:27 PM »
Impressive. I may have to buy one to the replace the unit I am using with my 128 project. It cost me more and it does not fix flicker in interlace modes. I also don't think interlace modes will display on LCDs with my current unit.
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Re: New Scandoubler ready!
« Reply #30 on: March 29, 2008, 02:29:03 PM »
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I also don't think interlace modes will display on LCDs with my current unit.

If your LCD supports 50Hz vertical sync it will.
 

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Re: New Scandoubler ready!
« Reply #31 on: March 29, 2008, 03:07:02 PM »
AWESOME..just frakkin AWESOME :-D  :pint:
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Re: New Scandoubler ready!
« Reply #32 on: March 29, 2008, 03:10:56 PM »
Placed an order  :-)
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Re: New Scandoubler ready!
« Reply #33 on: March 29, 2008, 03:30:01 PM »
Kick butt man.

Great job to Roy and the people that made this possible!

Like someone else mentioned, I'll probably wait until the initial ordering frenzy is over.

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Re: New Scandoubler ready!
« Reply #34 on: March 29, 2008, 04:10:08 PM »
Ima buy em all and sell em on ebay.  Bow before my entrepreneurial genius.
 

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Re: New Scandoubler ready!
« Reply #35 on: March 29, 2008, 05:38:30 PM »
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Ima buy em all and sell em on ebay.  Bow before my entrepreneurial genius.


I thought of that too but you can only buy 1 right now and it may take a while to get it.
 

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Re: New Scandoubler ready!
« Reply #36 on: March 29, 2008, 05:38:32 PM »
Ordered! Be able to put that old 22 inch monitor to some good use!
 

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Re: New Scandoubler ready!
« Reply #37 on: March 29, 2008, 06:20:33 PM »
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Ima buy em all and sell em on ebay.  Bow before my entrepreneurial genius.


I thought of that too but you can only buy 1 right now and it may take a while to get it.

 :lol: I was joking and hope you are too
 

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Re: New Scandoubler ready!
« Reply #38 on: March 29, 2008, 06:24:18 PM »
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Yes it is an absolute.

The unit is based on the reference design for the Averlogic scandoubler chipset found in a lot of low cost LCDTV's. The AL250A and the AL875 which is not a 24-bit system.

This has been discussed time and time again.

With AGA games you will get some colour/detail loss.

Plus it is an external scandoubler which means there is Digtal->Analog->Digital->Analog conversion which never offers the top quality!

The prototypes had unsheilded ribbon cables which made things even worse.

But as has been said for $65 you cant complain ;-)


So you're saying that it won't display 24 bit colour?   :crazy:
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Re: New Scandoubler ready!
« Reply #39 on: March 29, 2008, 06:47:02 PM »
It wont receive 24-bit colour, no.

RGB565 input only and AGA is RGB888
 

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Re: New Scandoubler ready!
« Reply #40 on: March 29, 2008, 09:04:04 PM »
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I also don't think interlace modes will display on LCDs with my current unit.

If your LCD supports 50Hz vertical sync it will.


This is an important point - I have an internal scandoubler in my Amiga, but my LCD doesn't sync down to 50Hz so it doesn't display anything at all.  It goes down to 56Hz but it isn't enough.

I suspect Roy's scandoubler is the same - it won't make a PAL machine display on an LCD that doesn't vertical sync down to 50Hz.

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Re: New Scandoubler ready!
« Reply #41 on: March 29, 2008, 09:29:31 PM »
I've ordered one also, it should work great (for OCS/ECS stuff) with my 17" Trinitron collecting dust.

There are rumors of a new internal unit to be out soon (from Jens IIRC), hopefully it's 24-bit, as I'm guessing it's intended for AGA... 16-bit in 2008 is just ghetto IMHO.

As an aside -- I wonder if amigan24 still thinks his bud's 16-bit Indivision is worth $900? :-P



 

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Re: New Scandoubler ready!
« Reply #42 on: March 29, 2008, 10:15:51 PM »
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I am confused.

Does it or does it not support 24 bit? :-?


It's 16-bit. Correct me if I'm wrong but all AGA games would be supported by that? (They were all 8-bit were they not?) It'd be certain HAM modes and demos that would not be supported fully - correct?

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Re: New Scandoubler ready!
« Reply #43 on: March 29, 2008, 11:18:23 PM »
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Correct me if I'm wrong but all AGA games would be supported by that?

I'll correct you. You are wrong.

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(They were all 8-bit were they not?)

Crap not another person who doesnt understand the difference between palettes entries vs colour depth ;-)

AGA is 24-bit. It has 256 palette entries each 24-bit.

How badly affected a game would be obviously depends on the 256 colours the game uses. If it uses lots of subtle shades of one colour the effect will be much worse than if it uses lots of widely different colours.

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It'd be certain HAM modes and demos that would not be supported fully - correct?

Wrong. All AGA modes not fully supported.
 

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Re: New Scandoubler ready!
« Reply #44 from previous page: March 29, 2008, 11:23:23 PM »
Placed an order!  Hard to pass this up...

Bob