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Title: Installed right angled adaptor, prism2.device stops working
Post by: on May 07, 2005, 11:30:05 PM
Title: Re: Installed right angled adaptor, prism2.device stops working
Post by: JuvUK on May 08, 2005, 10:43:23 AM
hi
i'm using the same card as you and i cant get the thing to work at all! prepcard says the same as yours!!
  any chance of emailing me please?
 i have a few questions
   justin.vaughan@blueyonder.co.uk
thanks juv.U.K
Title: Re: Installed right angled adaptor, prism2.device stops working
Post by: on May 08, 2005, 01:02:16 PM
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JuvUK wrote:
hi
i'm using the same card as you and i cant get the thing to work at all! prepcard says the same as yours!!
  any chance of emailing me please?
 i have a few questions
   justin.vaughan@blueyonder.co.uk
thanks juv.U.K


Dunno how I can help you really, as mine was working with the card straight into the socket, but now it isn't with the card fitted into the angled adaptor.  Very odd.
Title: Re: Installed right angled adaptor, prism2.device stops working
Post by: Darklight on May 08, 2005, 01:37:54 PM
I use a Netgear MA401 in my A1200.  Prism.device runs it perfectly when its plugged straight into the socket.  I don't know what the solution with the right angled adaptor is.  However, I can try and help.

Does the link light come on with the card inserted?
Have you tried booting the A1200 and then inserting the card ?(I believe the card reset problem with the A1200 requires you to do this unless you install a patch or mod the hardware)
Does the system recognise that the card is there at all?

I never used prepcard for mine, it just worked without it, so I can't help you there.  Hopefully it's something simple though.  :-)
Title: Re: Installed right angled adaptor, prism2.device stops working
Post by: on May 08, 2005, 02:00:40 PM
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Does the link light come on with the card inserted?
Have you tried booting the A1200 and then inserting the card ?(I believe the card reset problem with the A1200 requires you to do this unless you install a patch or mod the hardware)


I have both CardReset and CardPatch installed in the Startup-Sequence.  I'll try hotplugging it while it's up and running though, as you never know.

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Does the system recognise that the card is there at all?


Well, without using PrepCard I could think of anyother way of checking.  Prepcard shows that the card is inserted.

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I never used prepcard for mine, it just worked without it, so I can't help you there. Hopefully it's something simple though.


As I say, I only used prepcard to seee if it detected a card, not to install/format it or anything! :-o
Title: Re: Installed right angled adaptor, prism2.device stops working
Post by: Merc on May 08, 2005, 03:06:20 PM
Are you sure the right angle adaptor is plugged in all the way?  I had problems with mine until I realized it slides into place sort of in two "clicks" and I had only inserted it to the first position.  

It takes a little bit of force to get it in, but obviously you don't want to be too rough with it to prevent damaging the socket and/or motherboard  :-o
Title: Re: Installed right angled adaptor, prism2.device stops working
Post by: Doobrey on May 08, 2005, 03:26:25 PM
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JuvUK wrote:
i'm using the same card as you and i cant get the thing to work at all! prepcard says the same as yours!!


 That error message from prepcard is normal.. cos you can`t format a network card !

 It`s possible that the PCMCIA port has had a pin damaged when pluggin in the adapter. Take it out, and double check no pins are bent, then push it back in hard (my adapter is a tight fit and it felt like I was gonna end up pushing it out the other side !)
Title: Re: Installed right angled adaptor, prism2.device stops working
Post by: on May 08, 2005, 03:59:31 PM
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Doobrey wrote:
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JuvUK wrote:
i'm using the same card as you and i cant get the thing to work at all! prepcard says the same as yours!!


 That error message from prepcard is normal.. cos you can`t format a network card !

 It`s possible that the PCMCIA port has had a pin damaged when pluggin in the adapter. Take it out, and double check no pins are bent, then push it back in hard (my adapter is a tight fit and it felt like I was gonna end up pushing it out the other side !)


Thats what I thought, but surely Prepcard wouldn't display the name of the card "Netgear MA401" if the adaptor or the card weren't connected fully?
Title: Re: Installed right angled adaptor, prism2.device stops working
Post by: on May 08, 2005, 07:26:20 PM
Right........

I unplugged the adaptor, checked for bent pins. There were non, so i blew to free anydust that might be the culprit.

I then put the adaptor back in, and put the netgear card back into the adaptor as far as it would go. Pushed again and heared a second click.  Ahhh, i thought.... that must have done the trick.

I reboot, query device in Miami to find it's mac address and get same error message again!  I type cardreset, and the link light flashes of then back on, try again with miami.  Nothing!!! :-?

The only thing left to try that i can think of is to strip everything out of the tower, and try the card plugged in on it's own without the adapter.  As it worked perfectly before i put the guts in a tower and added the adapter. :-(
Title: Re: Installed right angled adaptor, prism2.device stops working
Post by: ncafferkey on May 08, 2005, 07:45:07 PM
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mdma wrote:

The only thing left to try that i can think of is to strip everything out of the tower, and try the card plugged in on it's own without the adapter.  As it worked perfectly before i put the guts in a tower and added the adapter. :-(


The other option would be to borrow or buy some other PCMCIA card that has an Amiga driver. I'm sure you could pick up a 28k modem very cheaply for example :-)
Title: Re: Installed right angled adaptor, prism2.device stops working
Post by: on May 08, 2005, 07:55:38 PM
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ncafferkey wrote:
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mdma wrote:

The only thing left to try that i can think of is to strip everything out of the tower, and try the card plugged in on it's own without the adapter.  As it worked perfectly before i put the guts in a tower and added the adapter. :-(


The other option would be to borrow or buy some other PCMCIA card that has an Amiga driver. I'm sure you could pick up a 28k modem very cheaply for example :-)


Har har, very funny Neil.

It's this bloody right angled adapter thats caused all the hassle, as the netgear card worked fine with your prism2.device until i put it in the adapter.  :pissed:
Title: Re: Installed right angled adaptor, prism2.device stops working
Post by: Doobrey on May 08, 2005, 10:32:27 PM
 The only other thing I can think of right now is to get out a magnifying glass and check the adapter.
 Maybe a cold solder joint or a damaged trace ?

Seeing as there are no compontents on the adapter, it`s gotta be something simple (the kind of simple that always makes the air turn blue when you`ve found it  :pissed: )..I wouldn`t have thought the extra couple of inches on the traces would cause a problem..
Title: Re: Installed right angled adaptor, prism2.device stops working
Post by: on May 08, 2005, 11:31:57 PM
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Doobrey wrote:
 The only other thing I can think of right now is to get out a magnifying glass and check the adapter.
 Maybe a cold solder joint or a damaged trace ?

Seeing as there are no compontents on the adapter, it`s gotta be something simple (the kind of simple that always makes the air turn blue when you`ve found it  :pissed: )..I wouldn`t have thought the extra couple of inches on the traces would cause a problem..


I've had a good look at it, and it looks like the solder at the end of one of the silver wires is touching the wire next to it.  I can't be 100% certain at the moment as I've not got a magnifying glass to hand. Could this be causing the problem?
Title: Re: Installed right angled adaptor, prism2.device stops working
Post by: Homer on May 09, 2005, 12:46:09 AM
It certainly could. Time for a close look with magnification methinks. Hope thats not damaged anything else :-(
Title: Re: Installed right angled adaptor, prism2.device stops working
Post by: on May 09, 2005, 02:32:20 AM
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Homer wrote:
It certainly could. Time for a close look with magnification methinks. Hope thats not damaged anything else :-(


Well, i reinstalled everything from scratch and now when I have a Voodoo screenmode selected the icons disappear, i only get text, and the mouse pointer is a huge block of random pixels about 2 inches square.  Hope it's not related. :-(

-edit

It's fine with AGA modes though, but i am have installed PowerIcons and KensIcons. Gonna get the magnifying glass to it tommorow, and also wipe DH0: and not install powericons or kens icons until i've setup the voodoo.
Title: Re: Installed right angled adaptor, prism2.device stops working
Post by: ncafferkey on May 11, 2005, 04:08:44 PM
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mdma wrote:
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ncafferkey wrote:
The other option would be to borrow or buy some other PCMCIA card that has an Amiga driver. I'm sure you could pick up a 28k modem very cheaply for example :-)


Har har, very funny Neil.

It's this bloody right angled adapter thats caused all the hassle, as the netgear card worked fine with your prism2.device until i put it in the adapter.  :pissed:


I didn't mean you should use a modem for your internet connection, just that you could use it to check if the adapter or the card was responsible for the problem. Isn't it possible that some cards wouldn't like their lines being stretched too much?
Title: Re: Installed right angled adaptor, prism2.device stops working
Post by: on May 11, 2005, 04:14:24 PM
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ncafferkey wrote:
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mdma wrote:
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ncafferkey wrote:
The other option would be to borrow or buy some other PCMCIA card that has an Amiga driver. I'm sure you could pick up a 28k modem very cheaply for example :-)


Har har, very funny Neil.

It's this bloody right angled adapter thats caused all the hassle, as the netgear card worked fine with your prism2.device until i put it in the adapter.  :pissed:


I didn't mean you should use a modem for your internet connection, just that you could use it to check if the adapter or the card was responsible for the problem. Isn't it possible that some cards wouldn't like their lines being stretched too much?


Ah, I see. I was VERY tetchy at the time of writing. :-)

Got myself a magnifying glass now, so i'm gonna strip the tower to pieces and check every track on the adaptor as I'm sure two of the track ends are touching.

It's possible that the lines are too long too i suppose, but the thing that baffles me is that miami can't open the prism2.device, but Prepcard shows the name and model number of the card that is plugged in. :-?
Title: Re: Installed right angled adaptor, prism2.device stops working
Post by: on May 12, 2005, 12:45:48 AM
Well I fecked if I know whats going on with this sodding thing.

Got my magnifying glass to the adapter made sure no tracks were crossing each other, and put my amiha back together in its tower.

Same problem again, thinking maybe miami has gone haywire i install genesis and get the same problem.

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!

Anyone want a free Amiga?

Just kidding. :-D
Title: Re: Installed right angled adaptor, prism2.device stops working
Post by: x56h34 on May 12, 2005, 02:29:04 PM
Perhaps you could ask your dealer for a replacement right-angle adaptor?
Did you plug in the PCMCIA wireless card the right way?

I never used one of those before, so I'm only guessing here.
Title: Re: Installed right angled adaptor, prism2.device stops working
Post by: on May 12, 2005, 04:04:09 PM
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x56h34 wrote:
Perhaps you could ask your dealer for a replacement right-angle adaptor?
Did you plug in the PCMCIA wireless card the right way?

I never used one of those before, so I'm only guessing here.


It has little grooves on each side of the card so it can't plug in the wrong way.

I'm gonna use the winblows method once more (format+reinstall), before asking for a replacement adaptor. :-(
Title: Re: Installed right angled adaptor, prism2.device stops working
Post by: x56h34 on May 12, 2005, 04:12:54 PM
Perhaps you could ask a friend with a laptop to try out the right-angle adapter for you?
As someone else suggested, you could try using a regular PCMCIA 16bit network card or a modem, just to see if it works in the right-angle adapter...or even a PCMCIA 16bit memory card.

It could be that the adapter itself causes some sort of interfearance with this particular PCMCIA WLAN card.

Can anyone confirm that they successfully used this or any other PCMCIA WLAN card with A1200 and a right-angle adapter?
Title: Re: Installed right angled adaptor, prism2.device stops working
Post by: on May 21, 2005, 05:17:59 PM
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x56h34 wrote:
Perhaps you could ask a friend with a laptop to try out the right-angle adapter for you?
As someone else suggested, you could try using a regular PCMCIA 16bit network card or a modem, just to see if it works in the right-angle adapter...or even a PCMCIA 16bit memory card.

It could be that the adapter itself causes some sort of interfearance with this particular PCMCIA WLAN card.

Can anyone confirm that they successfully used this or any other PCMCIA WLAN card with A1200 and a right-angle adapter?


I could try my own laptop i suppose!  I didn't think of that, i am a stupid man! :-D