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Re: Dissapointed with Hyperion - Quake II
« Reply #29 on: July 20, 2003, 09:29:01 PM »
@Mikey_C

How could I do that when I never had a copy of your magacine in my hands.

And it's not about side-stepping, but just pointing out that you should really think
twice of acussing anybody without checking the facts when you want to keep
up an impartial reputation ....

What Navie wrote wasn't nice, but lets be honest your 1st post in these thread was just
unwise invitation to what followed.

As an independent journalist, you should be the last one to act as white knight, and surely
the very last to try to accuse the original poster of having an agenda just to defend the
"other side".
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: Dissapointed with Hyperion - Quake II
« Reply #30 on: July 20, 2003, 09:43:29 PM »
Mikey_C you're saying that magazines are never
biased about anything? I've read lots of things
in magazines that were completely untrue...or
just outright ridiculous..not to say that about
yours specifically (becasue I haven't read it)
but I think that as humans in general
it's difficult to be 'completely', "110%"
unbiased about everything in life.

This is my personal OPINION of how I see it.


 

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Re: Dissapointed with Hyperion - Quake II
« Reply #31 on: July 20, 2003, 10:17:29 PM »
I think some people have taken this a little
too far. I have emailed both the local store
and Hyperion about the missing cd, that is no
major drama, however I am sorry if people have
misunderstood me.

I am still of the opinion that some nicer packaging
would have been great for Quake II. It has been
explained to me the legal reasons why and I thank
Hyperion for their reply.

However my own personal opinion is that the
packaging would have looked better as the way
they have done Freespace. I am sorry and apologise
to any reader if they believe that my posting was
to openly discredit Hyperion, because it certainly
was not.

I am expressing my own personal feeling on the matter.

I have contacted the store from where I purchased
QuakeII, all that has been done. I still feel as a
consumer I have the right to express a personal feeling
regarding an amiga matter on here, right?

I did not invisage that a post about my own
experience would eventuate into an attack on Hyperion.

IT WAS NOT POSTED FOR THAT PURPOSE!
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Re: Dissapointed with Hyperion - Quake II
« Reply #32 on: July 20, 2003, 10:21:34 PM »
@lempkee:
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you can email me for an unoficial AMIGA DvD case which i have made , i can send u the pictures , but u must print it... , why we did this?? well i hate that it had only a pc cover :) and a blank cd-r case... so i made a 3 cd holder and a dvd case for it..and use the magnificent cover we made :)

Hey, would it be possible for you to upload those to the pictures section?  I bet it would be a popular download.
 

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Re: Dissapointed with Hyperion - Quake II
« Reply #33 on: July 20, 2003, 10:26:57 PM »
@corrie:

Always remember the amiga is a troll-friendly zone.  If you post something negative about someone on one of the camps, trolls from the other side will happily jump in an "help" you.  The only way to mitigate this is to word any such posts very carefully.  Eg if I bought a complete Pegasos, the case was all scratched and I posted this under "Disappointed with Genesi", I would expect a 100+ post flamefest.
 

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Re: Dissapointed with Hyperion - Quake II
« Reply #34 on: July 20, 2003, 11:57:23 PM »
codesmith: i dont think hyperion would like that, must ask em first.

anyway for personal usage etc, just email me and i will send.. but not for spread on web untill i have checked with hyperion.

Whats up with all the hate!
 

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Re: Dissapointed with Hyperion - Quake II
« Reply #35 on: July 20, 2003, 11:57:55 PM »
I paid 70 pound for photogenics and that was a labelled cdr disc and only just over 7 meg used space on it. :-?  :-)
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Re: Dissapointed with Hyperion - Quake II
« Reply #36 on: July 21, 2003, 12:14:48 AM »
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I paid 70 pound for photogenics and that was a labelled cdr disc and only just over 7 meg used space on it.


i got that one to, BARGAIN!
id rather have 7mb worth every bit then lets say 1000+ photos extra on the disc? :)
 

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Re: Dissapointed with Hyperion - Quake II
« Reply #37 on: July 21, 2003, 12:54:02 AM »
@lempkee:

[EDITED, I forgot about my earlier post  :oops: ]

If it's your own original artwork, I don't think they should mind too much.  Don't worry about it if you think it will cause problems.  Especially after all the IP threads we've been having lately  :-D
 

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Re: Dissapointed with Hyperion - Quake II
« Reply #38 on: July 21, 2003, 04:12:10 AM »
hmm, You prefer useing the MorphsOs Q2 native version that has less features & has less if any custom mods over the hyperion version that you have never played
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Alkemyst, I own all Hyperion titles AND like them. The Q2
port is very good.
BUT! The MorphOS Q2 port has every feature you would
expect, minus the mods (only a few ported).
Please do not talk about stuff you haven't tried.
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Re: Dissapointed with Hyperion - Quake II
« Reply #39 on: July 21, 2003, 04:23:11 AM »
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There should be fair and equal moderation and when things get out of hand like cursing and personal attacks start the moderators should be more active in removing posts.


Personal attacks are always removed or edited evenly. In the context of this post i don't see how we could remove it? There are no personal attacks, just someone's opinion. There is no outright trolling. If i was to delete this thread people would scream censorship. Please keep in mind we don't delete negative coments about bbrv or Genesi unless they contain personal attacks.

Someone has to state the obvious and that someone is me!
 

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Re: Dissapointed with Hyperion - Quake II
« Reply #40 on: July 21, 2003, 04:47:20 AM »
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I still feel as a
consumer I have the right to express a personal feeling
regarding an amiga matter on here, right?


Yup, don't worry about that. People are just sensitive right now.
Someone has to state the obvious and that someone is me!
 

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Re: Dissapointed with Hyperion - Quake II
« Reply #41 on: July 21, 2003, 08:35:51 AM »
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Alkemyst, I own all Hyperion titles AND like them. The Q2
port is very good.
BUT! The MorphOS Q2 port has every feature you would
expect, minus the mods (only a few ported).
Please do not talk about stuff you haven't tried.


I dont have to try something before i can talk about it & express my opinion of it from what i have seen & been told, which is something you do all the time Alkis Tsapanidis.
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Re: Dissapointed with Hyperion - Quake II
« Reply #42 on: July 21, 2003, 09:29:38 AM »
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redrumloa wrote:

.... There are no personal attacks, just someone's opinion. There is no outright trolling. If i was to delete this thread people would scream censorship. Please keep in mind we don't delete negative coments about bbrv or Genesi unless they contain personal attacks.


Its not just this thread that I am talking about the tone in general on amiga.org that has changed. I mean the swear word filter hardly ever got used before but I now see it adding asterisks left right and centre.

I know that the moderators generally do a great job and it is not an easy job and I know that you treat Genesi the same way i.e only personal attacks are removed from threads.

I have no reason to 'hate' any company. I have been dissapointed with some but not to the extent that I make it my mission in life to continuosly attack them.

My concern would equally apply to Genesi if people were needlessly attacking them on this forum to the extent that they decided to withdraw their advertising it would only harm this site no one else.

And anyway the original poster has made his position clear he did not mean this to be an attack its just that certain individuals had to "Jump In" because they saw this as a good chance to sling some mud at Hyperion.

I guess it can't be avoided.   :crazy:

 

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Re: Dissapointed with Hyperion - Quake II
« Reply #43 on: July 21, 2003, 09:59:38 AM »
AmiGR:

Sorry, I forgot...

Of course, I should buy Hyperion version to see, if it's any better
than free one!

And about having tried that, I really haven't played much... It's just
sooo boring...

(As 3D FPS shooters usually are)

Yeah... Every Linux user should buy Microsoft Windows XP to see, if
it's any better...
 

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Re: Dissapointed with Hyperion - Quake II
« Reply #44 from previous page: July 21, 2003, 10:24:48 AM »
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Alkemyst wrote:
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Alkemyst, I own all Hyperion titles AND like them. The Q2
port is very good.
BUT! The MorphOS Q2 port has every feature you would
expect, minus the mods (only a few ported).
Please do not talk about stuff you haven't tried.


I dont have to try something before i can talk about it & express my opinion of it from what i have seen & been told, which is something you do all the time Alkis Tsapanidis.


Oh come on... Both versions are great. (Tried both) As to the mods, even Hyperion has run into legal trouble with many of them... AFAIR

The bad thing is Q2 mods are different from Q1 mods and are platform dependant, so you need someone to port them over. Problems arise then with source availability, programmer willness, legal issues with the mod authors etc... It was way easier with the platform independent Q1 mods.