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Re: Elbox Dragon "news"
« Reply #29 on: November 12, 2006, 12:00:45 AM »
@ Karlos
How enigmatic. I assume they mean that it didn't run 680x0 object code without freaky side effects

It's not about 68k emulation at all.
Those problems reported many Linux developars that use Coldfire under Linux on another hardware platforms. Completely not related to Amigas.
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Re: Elbox Dragon "news"
« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2006, 12:23:17 AM »
@r-tea

The incompatibilities between 680x0 object code and the coldfire are well documented, including some opcodes that are implemented but slightly differently to their genuine 680x0 counterparts. It would be interesting to see how this issue is  solved, or even if in fact it was enough of an issue in the first place to be a problem.

Any idea when these things will be on sale ?
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Re: Elbox Dragon "news"
« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2006, 02:24:00 AM »
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Looks like it exists and breathes, you can't say that about the server that hosts the pics....it's sloooow


I agree the thumbnail index site is exactly that, but if you click on the thumbnail boxes (mostly had red x, only displayed three pictures after an hour) the individual pictures are downloaded quite speedily, especially using a tabbed browser.  Of course with no sub-titles and the movies being in polish, it's hard to tell exactly what's happening except that they _are_ demoing a dragon board.  Can any polish speakers give us a translation of what exactly went on? :-o
 

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Re: Elbox Dragon "news"
« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2006, 07:02:57 AM »
Have not seen the Video's but from the things i gathered in different Threads:

Dragon is working and was running OS 3.9.

I would like to know:
1. How compatible is it to 68k Software.
2. Is FPU and MMU working? As far as i know the Coldfire V4e can emulate an 68k but without MMU and FPU - so did they activate the emulator, or patch the OS (maybe patching was not necessary)?
3. I know it's cool that this thing is working, but any geek porn (Benchmarks) out there?

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Re: Elbox Dragon "news"
« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2006, 07:07:17 AM »
Well, I saw the pictures too... What can I say? These are the best news in years!

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Re: Elbox Dragon "news"
« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2006, 10:37:02 AM »
Well, I saw these movies too... What can I say? These are the best proof in public of Elbox using a pirated or cracked version of Poseidon 3.x.

I wonder why he flushed away the log messages in Trident so quickly...
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Re: Elbox Dragon "news"
« Reply #35 on: November 12, 2006, 10:56:04 AM »
Dude, get over it.

Seriously ...  :madashell:
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Re: Elbox Dragon "news"
« Reply #36 on: November 12, 2006, 11:00:57 AM »
Hmm, so he should "get over it" the fact that a certain company is stopping at nothing to protect their SW, but has no problem advocating/helping pirating his SW ???

No wonder "Amiga" is such a moral tar-pit these days  :-(
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Re: Elbox Dragon "news"
« Reply #37 on: November 12, 2006, 12:40:10 PM »
@kronos

Well if that are the facts het should get a laywer and not write replies on amiga-news and amiga.org
 
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Re: Elbox Dragon "news"
« Reply #38 on: November 12, 2006, 12:56:45 PM »
Smaller XVid movies:

http://dahoo.untergrund.net/other/az_xvid/

More pictures:

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Re: Elbox Dragon "news"
« Reply #39 on: November 12, 2006, 01:08:58 PM »
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Well if that are the facts het should get a laywer and not write replies on amiga-news and amiga.org


...and amigaworld.net.
 

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Re: Elbox Dragon "news"
« Reply #40 on: November 12, 2006, 01:22:54 PM »
> Well if that are the facts het should get a laywer and not write replies on amiga-news and amiga.org

Why is it Amiga users are so particularily fond of people wasting money on laywers and fighting never-ending law suits? A really good idea indeed.

Sure, I guess /you/ would start a legal battle over 38 EUR?

In the end, the user decides what is morally acceptable for a company to do (no matter if this is Amiga Inc., Eyetech, Genesi or in this case, Elbox).

Go ahead if you'd rather condone this, but there is still freedom of speech and I will not keep my mouth shut about these illegal activities.
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Re: Elbox Dragon "news"
« Reply #41 on: November 12, 2006, 01:23:28 PM »
"Great" support for one of our few remaining key component coders... :-(

So if someone seems to be pirating software, especially such an important one, but the remaining Amiga "market" for this product wouldn't justify all the hassle to pay a lawyer for an international law-suit, then it shouldn't even be allowed to publically mention one's well-reasoned suspicion?

Hm, being a programmer in the Amiga "community" these days seems to really be fun.
 

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Re: Elbox Dragon "news"
« Reply #42 on: November 12, 2006, 01:46:13 PM »
@platon

I would'nt spam in this forum either or other forums either(remember mediator mailinglist), if it is only 38 euro.

Just open an new topic IMHO.


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Re: Elbox Dragon "news"
« Reply #43 on: November 12, 2006, 02:18:31 PM »
The power consumption of Coldfire MCF5475 is less than 2 watts.

ACK had mentioned about some sort of I/O board that enable classic Amiga accelerator to be used as stand alone computer.

Perhaps ACK or Elbox can create a similar I/O board with FPGA (Minimig) or Clone-A for Elbox Dragon.

Perhaps they can create PoE (Power Over Ethernet) Linux terminal for running browser, remote terminal, class rom etc. Other possiblity is hand crank portable Linux computer, Amiga/Aros laptops etc.

Is the above idea possible?
 

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Re: Elbox Dragon "news"
« Reply #44 from previous page: November 12, 2006, 02:34:20 PM »
http://dahoo.untergrund.net/other/az_xvid/

Smaller versions of the vid files.  Thanks to poster on AW.net

I'll be (pleasantly) surprised if the dragon makes it to market - originally announced for January 2005 release, I had totally given up on it.  Now in the "wait and see" camp again, but not banking on it.
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