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http://blogs.computerworld.com/windows-phone/23904/windows-phone-stuck-3-world-market-share-time-call-android
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As someone who has owned an iPhone and an Android phone, please leave me alone with my Nokia Windows phone! It hasn't crashed yet, which is a lot more than I can say about the ****ing Motorola droid phone I had before it, it integrates well with my personal and company emails, I have all the office tools I need, it syncs with my car (and every rental car I've used) and the battery life is good. I even like the main display with the big, square icons (although my Windows 8 PC looks and feels like Windows 7 thanks to Classic Shell).
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http://blogs.computerworld.com/windows-phone/23904/windows-phone-stuck-3-world-market-share-time-call-android
Android is so fragmented that Microsoft would never get involved.
Apple licensing IOS to handset manufacturers is more likely to happen.
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As someone who has owned an iPhone and an Android phone, please leave me alone with my Nokia Windows phone! It hasn't crashed yet, which is a lot more than I can say about the ****ing Motorola droid phone I had before it, it integrates well with my personal and company emails, I have all the office tools I need, it syncs with my car (and every rental car I've used) and the battery life is good. I even like the main display with the big, square icons (although my Windows 8 PC looks and feels like Windows 7 thanks to Classic Shell).
I agree, about a month ago I destroyed my galaxy and decided to try the Nokia Icon and I have been very impressed. It is a very stable OS and for work applications is it a great fit for what I use it for. I hacked away at droid with tons of tweaks and hacks and had great fun with it, with WP8 I use it for work and don't touch it.
Interestingly launcher 7 for droid was a better windows launcher experience then windows phone itself. WP tiles isn't bad mind you but launcher 7 has tons of options to configure making it fun. If you factor in the whole OS experience including the launcher, WP 8 wins for me.
I like that I can uninstall every Verizon application if I want to, unlike the droid which wouldn't let me.
Windows phone has better navigation and battery control/life imho.
The only issue I don't care for in WP is that the way they currently have their apps sandboxed, it makes it crazy hard to access files directly from the OS. Say you copy your book to a book folder you create, it is impossible to access it. You either have to have a sd card (not an option on the icon) or use one drive. File management via third party on android was very sweet and is very limited on WP. Apparently Microsoft is releasing a file manager for 8.1 that will fix these limitations.
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I think it is way to premature to write off WP. Microsoft has billions of free dollars sitting in the bank and I would predict they will outlive BB. They have made strategic actions in the market place to give them a real shot at being a contender with market share. Europe will play a role in the market share, as WP seems to be expanding faster there.
Time will tell, but Windows Phone 8.1 certainly added needed features and it looks like they are heading in the right direction.
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Android is so fragmented
The only people who give a rat's a** about this are tech writers and uber-geeks. 99% of consumers couldn't care less. Not sure why this even comes up as an issue anymore? An 80% market share doesn't lie, lol. ;)
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And Apple with its 16% share still takes in the lions share of the profits in the sector.
Don't forget, MS likely make more off Android than they do off WP due to licensing. Every Android handset that gets sold, MS gets paid as well, as a general rule.
http://www.infoworld.com/t/android/microsoft-makes-more-android-windows-smartphones-707
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I think it is way to premature to write off WP. Microsoft has billions of free dollars sitting in the bank and I would predict they will outlive BB. They have made strategic actions in the market place to give them a real shot at being a contender with market share. Europe will play a role in the market share, as WP seems to be expanding faster there.
All the billions of free dollars in the world can't force people to buy something, and judging by the reception it's gotten thus far, basically nobody cares about Windows Phone at all. Microsoft can throw all the money at it that they like, and that won't change; the question is simply when they'll decide they've flushed enough money down the toilet.
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Android is not perfect.
I'm not happy whit my LG phone, it sucks, if losses connection for a ms it does not recover the signal, you most turn the phone on and off, to get signal back. Not even if try enable disable flight mode.
Next time I buy Samsung, people seams to be more happy about that phone.
Iphone forget it, I'm not getting lured to into the the special accessory apple market, none standard power chargers and none standard USB cables etc.
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All the billions of free dollars in the world can't force people to buy something, and judging by the reception it's gotten thus far, basically nobody cares about Windows Phone at all. Microsoft can throw all the money at it that they like, and that won't change; the question is simply when they'll decide they've flushed enough money down the toilet.
By nobody you actually mean a small percentage of smartphone buyers get Windows Phone compared to other platforms. There are still people buying handsets. In the UK WP has a good percentage of the cheap end smartphone market and have been paired with affordable contracts. Until Microsoft pull then plug officially you can't predict what they will do.
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Iphone forget it, I'm not getting lured to into the the special accessory apple market, none standard power chargers and none standard USB cables etc.
I kind of shrug and laugh when I have people riding in my truck and they ask if I have an iPhone charger. Sorry, no non-standard USB connectors for me!
I have a Galaxy Nexus (32GB model) and love it. A couple years old now but still going strong, spec-wise it remains competitive with many newer model phones. The Nexus line was always the crème-of-the-crop, and not filled with all that rubbish/bloatware that lower-end models receive. ;)
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Android is not perfect.
I'm not happy whit my LG phone, it sucks, if losses connection for a ms it does not recover the signal, you most turn the phone on and off, to get signal back. Not even if try enable disable flight mode.
Next time I buy Samsung, people seams to be more happy about that phone.
Iphone forget it, I'm not getting lured to into the the special accessory apple market, none standard power chargers and none standard USB cables etc.
Its not Android fault LG(ay) makes bad hardware....
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Only in John's alternate reality can selling 7 million phones in one quarter be considered a failure and "no one is using them". Yes, that's how many Windows Phones were sold in Q1 2013 alone. That's more windows phones sold in one quarter than all Amiga computers ever made.
The things might not be as widespread as the "everyone has one" Android phones, but I see a lot of people here with them. Most people I've spoken with with them just love them, too. I honestly see more people using the WP's up here than I do BB's, which is saying a lot, considering it is Canada and all.
But let's ignore facts, numbers and reality. I'm sure the clamshell feature phone will cruise back into the scene and all things will be OK by some peoples standards :) Then we can get onto more important things like banishing tablets worldwide and figuring out how to send TCP/IP packets by smoke signal.
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Its not Android fault LG(ay) makes bad hardware....
My Droid Motorola did the same thing. Very frustrating when you're driving around and moving between masts. What I really hated was that it had a "send us an error report" feature and when I clicked on it, it would say "This feature has been disabled". I took this to mean that AT&T/Motorola/Google didn't give a crap if there was a bug. Add to that the phones ability to lock up or shut itself off for no reason... or even refuse to turn back on until I sacrificed a chicken to Lucifer and his minions, it wasn't a pleasant experience. ;)
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What a load of fud that blog is. WP8.1 is an OS which is starting to gain traction, having owned/used several phones WP8.1,has to be my pick.
IOS - I find the Apple hype machine sickening. Having tried a couple of iPhones they felt like a step backwards. The worse example is the iPhone 4. Peering into a tiny screen with a so called retina display. Then the releasing of the next iPhone, wait a minute its doesn't look any different. The quality is also questionable, there have been a few issues over the years. But the well oiled hype machine or just blind love takes care of that. Don't get me started on ibooks/powerbooks.
Although I do enjoy classic Macs.
Android - fragmented, slow, lockups. The layout is a mess, as for the collection of apps I prefer quality over quantity and I got tired of the adverts and stuff getting pushed to my phone even with adblocker installed. Sony Z series of phones look great and the one plus one is looking good. As for Samsung their best piece of work was th S2 since then I haven't been interested. The S3 has some design issues, especially the USB connector cracking on most of them. But I'll stop the... Have to go to work LOL.
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@Matt3K: I use mine for work so reliability comes top of the list for me. I don't play games, I don't use it as an MP3 player. I have no use for iTunes and install very few apps. I guess the Skydrive could take care of the storage issues, but I like to keep my data off the cloud.
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So much more to say. I'll be back.
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@Lurch
From
"Tim Richardson bluvg
Well. Apple makes lots of money on those macs. Microsoft and no one else makes money from low end phones. That is a huge difference. Microsoft traditionally makes money by selling OS licences; now it is forced to give them away. That's why people are a bit doubtful. It's just very hard to see how Microsoft will make money."
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@ SysAdmin:
Come back to us when Micro$oft file Chapter 13. They seem to make money somehow. :)
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I like my Nokia Lumia 620 with Windows 8.1 Phone more than Android, because it is easier to learn to use the Phone OS.
If I had more money to burn then I bought an Iphone.
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@Darrin
I never said they are going out of business anytime soon. They do have a habit of killing off products that bleed money from the company though like Zune, Kin Phone, MSN TV, Caligari Truespace, Courier, MS Money, Encarta, Etc. Sometimes they get things right, TriCaster works fine running on Windows 7 for example.
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@Darrin
I never said they are going out of business anytime soon. They do have a habit of killing off products that bleed money from the company though like Zune, Kin Phone, MSN TV, Caligari Truespace, Courier, MS Money, Encarta, Etc. Sometimes they get things right, TriCaster works fine running on Windows 7 for example.
True, but I'm guessing that they would be happy to make little or no money from Windows on phones as it would lock people into Windows on their home PCs. I'm sure a lot of people look at their iPhones and wonder what OSX would be like.
I still look after my accounts using MS Money and it was one of the first things I installed in my Win8 laptop. I'd be lost without it.
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@Darrin
And just like MS Money you can go on using WP for years to come even if MS kills it off. Here is a more complete list of dead MS products.
http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_-_Dead_Divisions_or_Products
Even if WP had the perfect interface I would still not use it because I don't want a company that is so customer hostile and unfriendly and has been convicted in court of illegal activity. The list of atrocities MS has committed against fellow developers and customers is so long if it was printed out it would stretch to Jupiter and back. No thanks I don't want a company like that having access to my mobile phone and personal data, I'll pass thanx.
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You could probably say that about almost any large company if you dig deep enough. However, power to the customer that places ethics into his purchasing equation. Unfortunately, most of us will never know who the really evil companies are because most of them can cover their tracks. Business is war, and I wouldn't get anywhere by encouraging companies to use my competitors (Mind you, I've never sent hit men after my competitors... yet). ;)
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Next time I buy Samsung, people seams to be more happy about that phone.
I've now extensively used an iPhone 3, Samsung Galaxy SII, Samsung Galaxy Nexus, and Google(LG) Nexus 5.
I'd run screaming from another straight up Samsung phone, until they stop the urge to wedge a bunch of useless crap into the Android OS trying to "out-feature" other phones out there. The SII was a nightmare regarding this. If your phone requires you to run the Kies software, do not buy it. As bad as this is I'd still do this over an iPhone though, don't get me started on that one.
I was pretty happy with the Samsung Galaxy Nexus after I finally received an update that fixed a hard lockup problem - it's very stable since then and comes with none of the bloatware as Google is 100% in charge of the software. The only thing that peeved me in the end is the lack of Android updates, Google only provides updates for 18 months for it (and probably all their products). If you buy your phone some time later after it was released, don't expect any more updates. Luckily, I find that unlike with iOS, I can still run any recently made App on a pretty old Android version. My iPhone/iPod on the other hand have pretty much just been paperweights now for years because of the lack of OS/app support (once an app is updated in the app store that drops old iOS compatibility, you can't even get the old app that will still run on your old device).
What I am really happy with is my Nexus 5. It's fast, great screen, never locks up, no bloatware crap, really good battery, and it's very cheap for what you get. Unless there is some specific need you have that some other phone might handle better (better camera, waterproof, etc.,) I think you'd have to be a bit nuts not to take a good look at this device.
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@Darrin
I think you would be hard pressed to find any company that has done as much damage to a industry as MS unless you go all the way back to Standard Oil and what they did to the industry they were in. BP also did some serious damage to that same industry a few years back off the coast of Florida, it was pretty horrible.
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@Darrin
I think you would be hard pressed to find any company that has done as much damage to the industry as MS unless you go all the way back to Standard Oil. Also, what BP did a few years back off the coast of Florida was pretty horrible.
What did Standard Oil do to the smart phone industry?
Also, don't just do the US Government thing and just blame BP. Try extending that to the US companies involved too. There's more to that story than the media lets on.
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I have a windows phone and it works perfectly.
More and more of my colleagues are changing to windows phones.
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I'd seriously avoid Samsung phones in the future.
I had a S5 come to me recently as my work phone and the bloat on it was just too much to deal with, and the Samsung phones just seem to be getting worse and worse for feeling "cheap".
I disliked that S5 so much I grabbed my old HTC One (Google Edition, stock Android) and am now using it instead. Yes, you heard me right - I'd rather use my older, personal phone that I paid for out of pocket for work than use their fancy S5, lol. I just couldn't stand the S5, just bloated, cookie cutter engineering. Sheer gimmickry - takes 45 minutes to disable all the goofy features they cram in and it still runs like crap.
My personal phone contract is up in a month or two and I'll likely go after the HTC One M8. I wouldn't hesitate to look at a Windows Phone if there was a similar high end offering comparable to the One M8. I'm not a camera guy, so most of the Nokia WP8 phones are of not much use to me.
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Lol... Meanwhile the rest of the world carries in as normal ;)
Anyway, I respect a person's choice if they can explain what they like about their chosen platform. I know what I like about my chosen platform, and also what is really crap about it... But everyone has to decide what trade offs they can live with.
I notice some people are sprouting out of date crap in this thread... If you are going attack a particular platform, you might want to try it for a bit and see if your "issues" still exist...
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All the billions of free dollars in the world can't force people to buy something,
It worked for google, android is horrible. windows phone gets a much better review. People are sheep though.
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Now Nokia is a corporation out of mobile phone business... ms havent enough level to produce phones on the future without new patents from Nokia, but i hope for a resurrection in the future, far away of ms.
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I find it interestng how "journalists", pundits and armchair analysts all love to pick apart every square inch of Microsoft's sale figures. Looking for something they can latch onto and parade around for eternity. It is the exact same for BlackBerry. We have been hearing and reading and watching streams of news that BlackBerry was on its knees and the axe was about to come down and finish it off any second for years now. Yet BlackBerry still continue, releasing a new BB10 phone and planning to release 3-4 new devices in the next year or so. Same with Windows Phone. I remember when Windows Phone 7 came out and the pundits were giving it a year before microsoft killed it off. yet here we are with Windows Phone 8.1, a list of OEM's ready to release phones with it and Microsoft offering incentives for them.
Until that fat woman walks out and starts warbling the obituary for these companies we can't predict how the phone market will play out.
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Worst. Train. Of. Thought. Ever.
Windows Phone global market share is 3% ergo Microsoft should keep making handsets and tablets and dump the OS for Android?
The only purpose of that article is to create these kinds of conversation threads all over the net. We've all just helped COMPUTERWORLD secure some advertising.
Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics
Yes, you can take the global mobile phone market size and look at how many users have Windows Phone 7.x/8.x and take the 3% figure and paint a dire picture.
But when you take the global mobile phone subscription numbers being 6.9 billion that's around 207 million for Microsoft.
http://mobithinking.com/mobile-marketing-tools/latest-mobile-stats/a#subscribers
But even if you focused on just smartphones and tablets and assume everyone has destroyed their old smartphone and tablet, that is still some 1.2 billion units and Microsoft's 3% share of that is 36 million.
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS24645514
http://www.gartner.com/newsroom/id/2674215
Now you might say that 36 million units is way below what Microsoft is used to, or a number that shareholders will not tolerate. But before you do, consider that:
Microsoft's original Xbox console sold 24.75 million units globally (the first Xbox ran at a complete loss), and the Xbox 360 sold 59,4 million units globally over 9 years.
http://www.statisticbrain.com/xbox-statistics/
Like it or not, Microsofts Phone and Tablet business is more aligned to how the Xbox division operates, than how the Windows and Office divisions operate. Meaning:
It will take time for a firm and stable market position to be established, and
Microsoft will not be a dominant force in this market segment.
The Globe
The other issue with the moronic post over at COMPUTERWORLD is that the global market is perceived as homogenous. The fact is that whilst Microsoft's Windows Phone smartphones are sold almost everywhere, Microsoft's marketing efforts would be focused on key segments within key geographies. One would have to have access to internally distributed reports to see how well MS is doing in this regard. For all anyone outside of that circle knows, they may hold a respectable 10+% in the markets they care about.
The Xbox does not sell equally well everywhere. It does very well in key markets. Yes, it would be great if all the people in the BRIC countries were the target for a Windows Phone 8.x device. That's just unrealistic.
Microsoft + Android = $$$
So lets say that Microsoft dump Windows Phone OS and move to Android. What, all of a sudden everyone will throw out their Sony, Samsung, LG, HTC, Motorola, Huawei, ASUS, Nexus (made by one of the aforementioned) smartphone and tablet and buy a Nokia (or whatever Microsoft end up calling it) smartphone and tablet?
How many of those people bought the Android based phone because the Lumia didn't have Android?
Buy suggesting to move to Android the moron is suggesting that Microsoft pull out of the mobility space all together. Sure, they'll stop spending all that money on smartphones and tablets and OS development, but they also won't be making any money in that segment and they certainly won't be solidifying a place at the post-PC table. Xbox and Office will support the company? I don't think so.
And Lastly
There only reason I didn't buy a Windows Phone smartphone just several weeks ago is because there is no Pebble app. But I was actually keen on it. I already use a Samsung Tabletbook with Windows 8 Pro so having a Windows Phone 8 companion device would have been nice.
And I find with most people it is the lack of apps. Sure all the key ones are there as they have been well established: Twitter, Facebook, Skype (Microsoft), Evernote, Dropbox, etc. But something new comes out and you know that more often than not it will be on iOS first, Android second, and at some point it will get to Windows Phone.
First you get the apps, then you get the users, then you get the money. Whilst there is a catch 22 in there with the users and apps, MS should not wait for this to occur organically. The best money they can spend is making all the most popular and highly sought after apps a first party development or co-development priority. Like Apple did in the early days of the iPhone.
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I got to annoyed with my Galaxy S3 4G (the 4G version with double amount of ram compared to standard S3) and decided to give Nokia Lumia 1020 with WP a shot and well I like it, i have a more stable phone and less problems with better battery life so I won't complain.
My S3 had tons of issues, all from not getting back reception after being in a area without reception and it could go a half day before I noticed and then I had to restart the phone, it handeled the jump between bands poorly and it was impossible to surf the web while talking in the phone, also I couldn't use the camera while in a call, coulden't send texts or pictures while in a call. Those things are much because of the phone and the jump to 4G since I did not have those problems on the Sony Xperia Play but my new phone handles that with a breeze.
Also pocket restarting without reason was annoying since if you didn't notice it you would miss calls etc because it would be stuck at "enter pin code" screen :/
I also was annoyed that I had to charge the phone every single day even if barely used. Felt like I always heard those low battery sounds...
Well in short im happy with my Nokia, I didn't think I would be before I bought it but i gave it a gamble and im happy with it, haven't used a Nokia phone since my N900 with Maemo (which I loved) and even if WP has thinks I do not like most is just a matter of just getting used to :)
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It is the exact same for BlackBerry. We have been hearing and reading and watching streams of news that BlackBerry was on its knees and the axe was about to come down and finish it off any second for years now. Yet BlackBerry still continue, releasing a new BB10 phone and planning to release 3-4 new devices in the next year or so.
I can understand what you're saying, but....
If I had £10,000 to spend on shares, there is absolutely zero chance I'd buy any of Blackberry's. Would you?
In terms of financial health, even though Blackberry survives, the fact that it has failed to maintain what was once a good grasp on the market basically means it's dead to shareholders, and they're the guys who dictate whether a company lives or dies, not the customers. It'd take a miracle for Blackberry to come back strong now - it's possible, but the market has matured and Blackberry didn't capitalise on their early strength. Not surprising, given the marketing budgets of Google and Samsung, particularly.
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Since when has the number of sales of a product had anything do with how good it is. The ZX Spectrum sold millions and it was relatively crap. Sorry but I had one.
Everyone loves their phone choice and their phone is the best and having used all 3 and BB I have mine and it's the best too.
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I can understand what you're saying, but....
If I had £10,000 to spend on shares, there is absolutely zero chance I'd buy any of Blackberry's. Would you?
In terms of financial health, even though Blackberry survives, the fact that it has failed to maintain what was once a good grasp on the market basically means it's dead to shareholders, and they're the guys who dictate whether a company lives or dies, not the customers. It'd take a miracle for Blackberry to come back strong now - it's possible, but the market has matured and Blackberry didn't capitalise on their early strength. Not surprising, given the marketing budgets of Google and Samsung, particularly.
Agree with all those points but one. I'd argue for evidence that a multi microcosm un-integrated market is mature.
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Since when has the number of sales of a product had anything do with how good it is. The ZX Spectrum sold millions and it was relatively crap. Sorry but I had one.
There are better example of that (c.f. VHS cassette format, Windows 95, many others). The Spectrum was released in 1982 at a price point of £139 - at that time, and at that price, a machine that in eight years time would have games like Lemmings and R-Type on it was actually an amazing piece of kit, you just need to put it into the context of the time it was released.
Sorry but I still have several (about 20 in the bookcase behind me :) )
Your point is absolutely correct, but the example wasn't :P
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I can understand what you're saying, but....
If I had £10,000 to spend on shares, there is absolutely zero chance I'd buy any of Blackberry's. Would you?
In terms of financial health, even though Blackberry survives, the fact that it has failed to maintain what was once a good grasp on the market basically means it's dead to shareholders, and they're the guys who dictate whether a company lives or dies, not the customers. It'd take a miracle for Blackberry to come back strong now - it's possible, but the market has matured and Blackberry didn't capitalise on their early strength. Not surprising, given the marketing budgets of Google and Samsung, particularly.
I agree. The past management at BlackBerry screwed the pooch so hard it is shivering in shock at a corner. They f'ed up the marketing of the BlackBerry 10 OS, they rested on their arse and let the competition take market shares from them in the business sectors. However there is a new management team in, they have a plant to work with Foxxcon to get new phones (which they have just released one) out, they are almost ready to release OS 10.3 and their BES 10 software is getting cross platform functionality. Yet these tech blogs don't seem interested in that fact.
Much like with Windows Phone these tech blogs are more interesting in regurgitating fact devoid or poorly researched opinion pieces. Windows Phone 8.1 has just got out of the door and I have seen people, who have never used a Windows Phone, slamming it.
Also if people do want to invest in BlackBerry they can't anyway. They went private months ago ;)
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Glad to hear BB is giving it a go. Never used one of those or an Iphone.
I was a huge palm user back in the day. My favorite smartphone was my 700p, it was the last real smartphone where I didn't need a data contract. I synced all my work directly to the device and it was none of anyones business what apps I installed on it. I only updated to the Galaxy s3 when IT couldn't support it any longer.
To this day it had the best crm application by a longshot that I have ever used and a phone.
The Nokia Icon running wp8 is a nice break, and seems cohesive and stable to me. I have seen 8.1 demoed at ms store and it is pretty slick. I will wait until it is an official release on the phone even though it is easy to install a developer 8.1. My revelation is that I need to use it as a tool for work and not for games and hacking. I had so many games and fun tweaks on my 700p and SG3 it sucked a lot of time. The Icon is my first business tool/camera only and so far I'm enjoying spending time on other things...
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My next phone os will be Cyanogenmod. My next phone will probably be the Oppo N1. It has a movable camera. I'm not really into phone cameras but the idea of actually having a moving part on my phone excites me!
The best phone i ever owned was a Blackberry Pearl. Probably because it only had 2G networking which means no internet! I also like the keyboard as opposed to crappy touchscreens.
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My next phone os will be Cyanogenmod. My next phone will probably be the Oppo N1. It has a movable camera. I'm not really into phone cameras but the idea of actually having a moving part on my phone excites me!
So Android then ;-) Cyanogenmod is just an Android ROM, any Android phone can use it.
The Oppo N1 doesn't exactly get rave reviews and most mention sluggish/crashing. It's just another Chinese Android phone.
If you want something designed around the Cyanogenmod ROM then get the oneplusone.
http://oneplus.net/
I'll just stick with my Nokia Lumia 1320, smooth as silk. Camera is amazing for what it is, better than my Samsung digital camera which is 8MP.
Only have to charge every 3rd/4th day instead of the once a day with my old Android phone :-)
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You can put Cyanogen on pretty much any phone and have better hardware than the cheap chinese phones coming out with it installed, like the OPPO or the oneplus.
Better yet, just buy a vanilla Android phone like the Nexus or one of the Motorola handsets.
Cyanogen isn't anything but a re-roll of Android. A nice one, yes - but she's still Android.
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I like to think of it as a googleless android :)
Will it work well with my sony Xperia S? My last android update has slowed my phone to a snails pace and is now a little buggy. My phone is only compatible with the version from 2 years ago. Is it worth installing?
I didn't know about the oppo getting crappy reviews so thanks. And yes i think the oneplusone is nice.
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You'll have to root the Sony phone, xda forums is the place to start :
http://www.xda-developers.com/tag/sony-xperia-s/
:-)
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My last android update has slowed my phone to a snails pace and is now a little buggy. My phone is only compatible with the version from 2 years ago. Is it worth installing?
On my Xperia Ray the 11.0 builds feel slower than the 10.1 builds were. I've yet to try the latest 11.0 build where they switched from PMEM to ION.
There are plenty of different versions for you to try here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-s/s-development
However you need to unlock the bootloader to install any unofficial software.
There is an official way of doing it http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/ (http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/) but this stops some Sony software from working (although you might not care). And some phones can be unlocked by using a test point to allow flashing of a hacked bootloader. Some phones can't have their bootloader unlocked & it can depend on who sold it to you.
The third option is to run cyanogenmod on top of the Sony supplied kernel http://www.xda-developers.com/android/locked-bootloader-xperia-s-and-want-cm10-no-problem/ cyanogenmod is just the front end and not the Linux kernel and drivers, but some features need new drivers. So you're likely to have issues moving forward, but it could make it bearable in the short term.