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Operating System Specific Discussions => AROS Research Operating System => Topic started by: melott on February 02, 2004, 08:24:47 PM

Title: AROS x86i bounty
Post by: melott on February 02, 2004, 08:24:47 PM
I would really like to see a 68k emulator and
whatever else it would take to run Classic Amiga
software on the Native x86i version of AROS.

I am thinking seriously of putting up $100.00 U.S.
from my own pocket and if anyone else kicked in
a few buck, well ... who knows?

Is there anyone else interested??
Title: Re: AROS x86i bounty
Post by: bloodline on February 02, 2004, 08:27:34 PM
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melott wrote:
I would really like to see a 68k emulator and
whatever else it would take to run Classic Amiga
software on the Native x86i version of AROS.

I am thinking seriously of putting up $100.00 U.S.
from my own pocket and if anyone else kicked in
a few buck, well ... who knows?

Is there anyone else interested??


I'm throwing in a few bucks as soon as I get paid
Title: Re: AROS x86i bounty
Post by: DFergATL on February 02, 2004, 08:31:53 PM
I will kick in a few when I get paid next also.  I really hope they can intergrate it like they did on MorphOS.  But as I understand that might not be possiable.  

****as a side note.  Can someone please give me a hand with my "signature" I have set it up but even when I check "attatch signature" when posting nothing happens.****
Title: Re: AROS x86i bounty
Post by: bloodline on February 02, 2004, 08:35:37 PM
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DFergATL wrote:
I will kick in a few when I get paid next also.  I really hope they can intergrate it like they did on MorphOS.  But as I understand that might not be possiable.  

****as a side note.  Can someone please give me a hand with my "signature" I have set it up but even when I check "attatch signature" when posting nothing happens.****


If you check "Always attach my signature " it should work... clearly it hasn't... :-(
Title: Re: AROS x86i bounty
Post by: DFergATL on February 02, 2004, 08:53:28 PM
This is a test of the "Attatch Signature System"
Title: Re: AROS x86i bounty
Post by: DFergATL on February 02, 2004, 08:54:08 PM
Sir, we have signature sighted!!


Thanks!
Title: Re: AROS x86i bounty
Post by: 4pLaY on February 02, 2004, 09:06:07 PM
its not IMPOSSIBLE to implement it but it IS impossible to do it without dragging down the whole OS performance.
Title: Re: AROS x86i bounty
Post by: bloodline on February 02, 2004, 09:17:00 PM
This is how it will work:

It is not a 68000 emu, it is a whole Amiga emulation (that would necessite  to run a full 68k OS to run applications).  

That full 68k OS would be AROS itself, in a modified (let's say "crippled") form, so that most of the API would simply redirect to the ones of the "real" AROS. This is the only way to achieve transparent emulation on a machine with different endianess.  

I think "me" was asking about a 68000 emu like the one in MorphOS that make possible to use the 68k apps directly on the native OS.  

That is not possible on x86, for instance, and it makes no sense to duplicate the efforts: the UAE approach would work with any CPU.  

That would definitely increase AROS userbase but there are problems involved in such a situation:- How hard/long to make a portable 68k emulator ?  

There are many issues, as said, which make it impossible to have such a portable 68k emulator: if you want portability, you need to run 68k tasks in a box of its own.
Title: Re: AROS x86i bounty
Post by: DFergATL on February 02, 2004, 09:49:46 PM
In my honest opinion.  I really belive that we should be more concered about getting AROS into a useable state as AROS.  I think all this "it needs to run native Amiga software to be useful" is just not something I buy into.  Yes it would be nice, but I don't see it as being more, or even as much as, getting AROS closer to  a R1 release.  Once AROS is more feature complete then go after the UAE intrigration.  Mind you this is just my personal opinion.  I am not a gifted devloper and therefore all I do is toss money that way when I can.  That said I will toss some of my money on the UAE thing also.  I just don't see it as being more important than the other things.  
Title: Re: AROS x86i bounty
Post by: Glaucus on February 03, 2004, 12:57:50 AM
I agree. Finish the OS itself, then add backwards compatibility.

  - Mike
Title: Re: AROS x86i bounty
Post by: Tomas on February 03, 2004, 01:21:24 AM
I think tcp/ip stack is more important for now.
Title: Re: AROS x86i bounty
Post by: DFergATL on February 03, 2004, 01:33:42 AM
I think the bounty for TCP/IP  is up to $550 now.  But it does not appear to be assigned to anyone.  I find that hard to believe.  I realize that it is no small task but you would think that for that money someone would say "heck I can do it."  I sure wich I could.
Title: Re: AROS x86i bounty
Post by: dammy on February 03, 2004, 03:25:52 AM
by Tomas on 2004/2/2 20:21:24

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I think tcp/ip stack is more important for now.


On the top three most important things for AROS, TCP/IP is the most important.  I just hope someone takes up the bounty (http://www.thenostromo.com/teamaros/bounty_details_3.html) for it.

Dammy