ACube and A-EON announce One Vision on future Amiga co-operation

[nicholas]

Cheers Rob.

[nicholas]

Well news, and I hope that we are enjoy from this union good Amiga machines a good prices.

Good prices are usually the result of increased competition rather than reduced competition.

[spirantho]

Acube and A-Eon were never competing anyway, and Trevor has more than demonstrated that he's not profiteering off his machines with his X1000 release (which has a very high price tag for the user, but also a very high price tag for Trevor - he's definitely not getting rich off that - if he were profiteering production would have stopped after the first run when the price of the PA6T CPUs rocketed.)

[nicholas]

Acube and A-Eon were never competing anyway, and Trevor has more than demonstrated that he's not profiteering off his machines with his X1000 release (which has a very high price tag for the user, but also a very high price tag for Trevor - he's definitely not getting rich off that - if he were profiteering production would have stopped after the first run when the price of the PA6T CPUs rocketed.)

Either way prices are still going to be high as usual.

[spirantho]

Either way prices are still going to be high as usual.

That's just the nature of designing and building new hardware, unfortunately....
Luckily we have MorphOS as well so that people content with lower-priced and older but still powerful hardware can still get their fix. Everybody wins, really

[yssing]

Those are some really red and white pants..

[XDelusion]

The Minimig+ "Will not be finished in the near future" A bit dissapointed, it sounds like a nice system, if they can push it out the door for the same money as the current Minimig that'd be great

Robert.

That's the sad part. Guess I'll pick up the current Mid (with all the expensive expansions) and settle for less for a while.

[Iggy]

Be glad that there are developments, whether expensive or slow.
We represent a very small market and those that catering to it are doing so solely out of their own interest in it.
We still bath in the afterglow of a good experience.

Anybody got a cigarette?

[XDelusion]

Be glad that there are developments, whether expensive or slow.
We represent a very small market and those that catering to it are doing so solely out of their own interest in it.
We still bath in the afterglow of a good experience.

Anybody got a cigarette?

Very true, I understand the cost, it's just I'd rather throw that money on something with more RAM than 4Mb, but then again, it's hard to keep an old Amiga stable, and it's hard to find people to repair it and harder to find people to repair it within a resonable time frame.
 I waited about 3 years to get my A600 back. Then when I got it back, I plugged in my IDE, cable but could not get my 600 to see the HD. I pulled it out and out came two of the pins with it, so alas I get to ship the damn thing off again and Lord knows when I'll get it back. In fact all my Amigas need re-capped or something at this point. Annoying!

[Darrin]

It is good to see the Minimig getting a makeover as the design is more or less what Dennis rolled out all those years ago.

I look at my board with the soldered RAM chips and patch wire, the cut solder joint to boost the HDF speed and the ARM board and think back to my first days with it when it couldn't even write to an ADF, there was no HDF file, no turbo mode, no detailed on-screen configuration and having to use a serial link to a PC to reflash it.  It has come a long way, but what are "optional extras" really need to be "standard" now.

[persia]

Either way prices are still going to be high as usual.

The only answer to price is porting to standard hardware.  And unlike Apple they didn't make the code portable, so it would cost too much upfront.

[Iggy]

The only answer to price is porting to standard hardware.  And unlike Apple they didn't make the code portable, so it would cost too much upfront.

Actually, a cheaper PPC processor would not hurt either.
The PA6T used in the X1000 is really pricey and the communications oriented Qorlq chips he intends to use in its successor are only a little less costly.
The AMCC chips Acube uses are much cheaper, but the performance is not that great.

[SysAdmin]

Sounds like good news.

[yssing]

And unlike Apple they didn't make the code portable, so it would cost too much upfront.

Have you seen the code?

[utri007]

Price is matter of quantities. Hope with aeon support could help with that, producing low end PPC mobos in china would cost about 30€ per mobo.

But would 10 000 OS4 capable mobos sell?

I would like to see threads like this without x86 fantasies and whining

[amigakit]

producing low end PPC mobos in china would cost about 30€ per mobo

Not in my experience.  Only if you produce 100,000s of units.