@LoadWB
Increase control and deny driving licenses to irresponsible people. About your gun ideas: what happens I would like to drive a Tank, to walk by the street carrying a bazooka and would love owning some napalm bombs, grenades and nuclear bombs? don't I have the right? USA government allows its citizens to be armed (it's their right) but decides that other countries don't have the right to have weapons, funny uh? strangely USA trains terrorists and sells weapons to terrorist groups.
If you read what I said, I pretty clearly point to government as a problem. I cannot speak for our government as for the past 100 years our government has represented us less and less. As for your outrageous scenario with tanks and bazookas, again, we have the right to bear arms, but the freedom of what arms we may choose is limited. Napalm? That's easy enough to make so, sure, I can have that. But I cannot use it. Grenades? Sure, but I cannot use them without repercussions. Tank? Sure, but impractical and the average citizen would not be able to arm it. Bazooka? Pretty certain that's limited.
IMHO only police and army should have weapons. About the right to protect yourself and how weapons protect you: in USA if someone wants to enter your house to steal something he'll simply shoot you in the face when you go out to throw the trashcan and later steals you. In Europe he steals you but leaves you living. I prefer to be steal than murdered.
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It's difficult to prevent retards and crazy people accessing weapons. Hunters can access easily weapons, despiting half of them are psychos without empathy. If selling weapons for hunting wouldn't be allowed I would feel much safer too.
Again, (citation needed). My grandfather was a hunter and the first thing he taught me about guns was what they could do to a person and how we never want that to happen.
It's usual to read news about crazy students killins a dozen of students in USA. That doesn't happen in European countries due to weapons not being so common.
Again, the vast majority of those killings are perpetrated by people who have obtained the guns illegally or illegitimately, and even more noteworthy is how all but one of the mass murders in the past decade and a-half have been committed in gun-free zones.
In general "life" worths much less in America than in Europe: it's easier than someone kills you to steal you in USA, Mexico and some southamerican countries than in European ones, killing you to steal you is a concept difficult to understand here... even for robbers. They can steal you without killing you and concepts like "self-defense" doesn't exist here so you can't kill robbers who enter your house (otherwise you open the doors to a slaughterhouse... if you wanted to kill somebody you could easily trick him to visit your house, kill him and claim he attacked you)
I read your first point several times, and I still cannot make sense of it. Sure, I can post on Craigslist and invite you to my home and rape, torture, and kill you. We can kill someone who enters our home and is a threat, but there is no slaughterhouse here. Recently the big anti-gun culture target was the Florida "Stand Your Ground" law, which gives someone a legal authority to kill someone if the person is an imminent threat to life. When these statutes passed around 2004 we were told it would be the Wild West, people would walk around armed to the hilt and pick fights just to kill other people. Never happened, and even the Zimmerman-Martin case was never prosecuted nor defended as a "SYG" case.
tl;dr? We aren't the Wild Wild West of here, but we do have more than our fair share of violent people who, by the way, are violent with or without guns.
Would you give shotguns to 12-year boys so they can protect themselves of each others? They have the right, don't they? oh perhaps they aren't mature enough... what do we do with people over 21 that are not mature enough? Some people with more than 50 years will never mature anyway...
That's just a terrible posit. No, we teach our children that we resolve disputes with discourse or, if necessary, a good ass-beating. Again, never on the offensive, only on the defensive. I fired my first gun when I was 8: my grandfather had me shoot a .22 rifle that my dad shot when he was my age. As with anything, while our children are under our tutelage, we instruct them of the correct ways to interact with people, to handle themselves, and to handle dangerous objects. At some stage there is little we can do other than influence their behavior and they have to take on the responsibility for their own actions. You're right: some people in their 50s aren't mature, but we do not elect to impose restrictions on all people in their 50s for the fallacy that therefore ALL people in their 50s are immature or will be.
IMHO the world is better without violence and violence tools. Weapons should only be owned by armies and police. Of course you can kill people with a knife but many less, just like if you get mad you'll kill less people with a knife than with a bazooka.
Oh stop. Bazooka, again?
Anyway European countries sell anti-personal mines and weapons to other countries so it's not so pink here.
But if you think everyone should have the right to own weapons you should agree every country deserves having nuclear weapons to bomb your cities.
Now you're just being intellectually dishonest. My prior presentation clearly stated that we may exercise our rights and freedoms so long as they do not impose upon others', and the latter is subject to limitations.
It's probably a good idea you stay over in your country. If you were to ever come here, I'm likely to lure you into my home and shoot you with my nuclear bazooka. FFS.
To recognize for a moment the people who will gladly give up their rights and freedoms to protect others, first you do not understand a thing I have said already, and secondly that you would do so gives you no right nor power to impose the same unto me or others who would not. I am happy that, in your opinions, you would give up your sovereignty for the safety of others. I hold onto my sovereignty because I am not a threat to others, and if I ever become one I will face the repercussions.
All of this notwithstanding, guns exist. Weaponry exists. Always has and always will because there are no angels amongst men. So long as our civil society persists, we have no reason to turn those arms on each other and those who do are punished (well, not so much under our current administration.) To paraphrase my homosexual friends, "We're here, we're armed, get used to it."
