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samba on an amiga
« on: April 06, 2018, 02:47:38 AM »
hi, im trying to mount a samba share on my amiga.  is there a hosts equivalent for the amiga.
looks like you cannot use ip's
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Re: samba on an amiga
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2018, 04:37:32 AM »
Depends on tcp/ip stack If not available than use another stack. Easynet has such a feature. based on AmiTCP3 I think, or pro on 4.
 

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Re: samba on an amiga
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2018, 06:14:56 AM »
Every TCP/IP stack has the hosts file/configuration.

For AmiTCP/IP based stacks (AmiTCP/IP, Genesis, EasyNet?):
AmiTCP:db/hosts

For Miami:
Database->Hosts in GUI

For Roadshow:
Devs:Internet/hosts

For Netstack:
ENVARC:sys/net/hosts

And I'm pretty sure even TermiteTCP has one somewhere :P
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Re: samba on an amiga
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2018, 08:10:42 PM »
Don't you need a specific SMB client application on the amiga side?

A side question, is there any amiga native network file sharing? (like SMB but for amiga)
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Re: samba on an amiga
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2018, 08:21:29 PM »
SAMBA for Amiga has a command-line client (SmbClient executable). You can use that to connect to the server (share) and establish a session, then list files, upload, download etc. There are also some SMBMount applications but I haven't tried those. I always use the smbd/nmbd and set the Amiga up as a server and the PC as the client.
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Re: samba on an amiga
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2018, 09:20:40 PM »
SMBMount and smb-handler (I think it is) work very well, but are a problem with file shares on modern Windows.  Our Samba is so old you have to bump down the SMB security in Windows to make it work.  I'm not even sure you can do that with Windows 10.

I use both with my NAS.  If you don't want to screw with SMB security there is also NFS for Windows and available on most NASes.
 

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Re: samba on an amiga
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2018, 01:11:09 PM »
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SMBMount and smb-handler (I think it is) work very well, but are a problem with file shares on modern Windows.  Our Samba is so old you have to bump down the SMB security in Windows to make it work.  I'm not even sure you can do that with Windows 10.

I use both with my NAS.  If you don't want to screw with SMB security there is also NFS for Windows and available on most NASes.
Setting up one of my old pcs with W2000 should do the trick then.
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Re: samba on an amiga
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2018, 02:20:26 PM »
I think LoadWB is referring to smbfs. It is a single executable that enables you to mount SMB shares from the cli and is coded by Olaf Barthel. It is on Aminet. I use it with my NAS and it works very well. For NFS shares with Genesis there is ch_nfsmount included with OS3.9.
                                                             
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Re: samba on an amiga
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2018, 02:20:28 PM »
Quote from: pyrre;838289
Don't you need a specific SMB client application on the amiga side?
If you want to mount Samba shares on other machines from Amiga, there's absolutely no need to install full Samba installation on Amiga. SMBFS is a stand-alone executable which is just fine for the purpose. You can mount any Samba share as a drive under AmigaOS with it.


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A side question, is there any amiga native network file sharing? (like SMB but for amiga)
Yes there is! NetFS Revised is a perfect solution for it. It preservers Amiga's file attributes (Samba doesn't) and everything.
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Re: samba on an amiga
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2018, 08:13:50 PM »
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If you want to mount Samba shares on other machines from Amiga, there's absolutely no need to install full Samba installation on Amiga. SMBFS is a stand-alone executable which is just fine for the purpose. You can mount any Samba share as a drive under AmigaOS with it.



Yes there is! NetFS Revised is a perfect solution for it. It preservers Amiga's file attributes (Samba doesn't) and everything.
reading through the txt file it seems to be very useful...
I could setup my efika of mac mini with Mos as a server of some sort and use the client state on any other amiga in my house with network....
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Re: samba on an amiga
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2018, 08:21:11 PM »
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reading through the txt file it seems to be very useful...
I could setup my efika of mac mini with Mos as a server of some sort and use the client state on any other amiga in my house with network....
Genius :biglaugh:

Yeah, I can cross mount all my machines here with it... ram disks, partitions etc :) Easy to tune secondary machines from one "central" machine and copy files here and there. I also sync one machine to another to keep them in exactly the same state.

Here's a guide with screenshots how to configure it:
https://library.morph.zone/Mounting_Network_Drives#NetFS_Revised
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Re: samba on an amiga
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2018, 12:46:53 AM »
Quote from: pVC;838314
Yeah, I can cross mount all my machines here with it... ram disks, partitions etc :) Easy to tune secondary machines from one "central" machine and copy files here and there. I also sync one machine to another to keep them in exactly the same state.

Here's a guide with screenshots how to configure it:
https://library.morph.zone/Mounting_Network_Drives#NetFS_Revised


Thanks for this.  I had completely forgotten about NetFS.  I need to try it out.
 

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Re: samba on an amiga
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2018, 09:22:38 AM »
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Thanks for this.  I had completely forgotten about NetFS.  I need to try it out.

And especially this NetFS Revised version is a great update to the ancient NetFS.
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Re: samba on an amiga
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2018, 10:19:44 PM »
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Yeah, I can cross mount all my machines here with it... ram disks, partitions etc :)

Don't tell anyone, but back in the days, before NAT routers took over completely, it happened that I found remote Amiga systems of users on IRC that had netfs running and would allow sinister people like me to mount their RAM:, so I could mess with their ENV:sys/palette.prefs etc and see them complain on IRC about how their Amiga was behaving strangely. Good old times :)

Btw - the "true" SMB (aka NetBIOS over TCP/IP) equivalent for Amiga would be Envoy.
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Re: samba on an amiga
« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2018, 01:59:39 PM »
Quote from: kolla;838344
Don't tell anyone, but back in the days, before NAT routers took over completely, it happened that I found remote Amiga systems of users on IRC that had netfs running and would allow sinister people like me to mount their RAM:, so I could mess with their ENV:sys/palette.prefs etc and see them complain on IRC about how their Amiga was behaving strangely. Good old times :)

Btw - the "true" SMB (aka NetBIOS over TCP/IP) equivalent for Amiga would be Envoy.
How do i find the files for Envoy?

Find lots of related stuff on aminet. patches and such...
but seemingly i cant find the actual files.....
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BPPC 603e+ 040-25/200, 256MBram, BVIsionPPC, Indivision AGA MK2.
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