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Rtg ?
« on: May 19, 2011, 10:01:49 AM »
HI all is it worth getting RTG?, is there a lot of games that support it what games dont support it. what software does benefit and what software does not, what are the pro's and con's

The reason i ask is that i am planning on getting a mediator for my 1200t but need to know if it is worth going down that route.

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« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2011, 11:18:37 AM »
Not worth it for games in my opinion (the great majority don't support it,) but if you want your Workbench to look good and fly with lots of colors and hi-res and not have to worry about running out of chipram, it's a great upgrade.
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« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2011, 12:47:34 PM »
Games like like Napalm, Exodus, Foundation, some 3D games etc get some benefit of it.

You get smooth scrollin even with hires modes like 800x600
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Re: Rtg ?
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2011, 01:09:10 PM »
As saiid great for 3d games, and most modern games/ports support rtg.
 
ITs awesome for workbench , you wont look back. And more modern software , some paint packages etc will use the higher res and depths
 
A mediator, though I have never owned one, will bring some other cheap pci upgrades, like sound cards (again hardwarwe hitting games wont use, but more modern one will), tv cards, network cards
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Re: Rtg ?
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2011, 01:19:47 PM »
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Not worth it for games in my opinion (the great majority don't support it,) but if you want your Workbench to look good and fly with lots of colors and hi-res and not have to worry about running out of chipram, it's a great upgrade.


so the games wont run at all except for some 3d games?

if that is the case then i might just stick with aga :(
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Re: Rtg ?
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2011, 01:21:32 PM »
The games will still run, you will still need a monitor to connected to the native amiga display to see them.
 
Howver there is a neat hack if you get a tv card for the mediator where you can run the native amiga display through the card and when you run a hardware banging game it will display in a window on your workbench
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Re: Rtg ?
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2011, 02:54:30 PM »
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so the games wont run at all except for some 3d games?
I don't know what the solutions are like for 1200, but some Zorro RTG cards have a pass-through where you can run flicker-fixed VGA output from the chipset in and use both video sources on one monitor.

As for RTG in general, I've been using it for a couple months now, and I have to say I'm impressed by how zippy it is (granted, I am using a Z3 RTG card.) If you do any kind of serious stuff on your Amiga it's a vast improvement, and it would enable you to play a variety of homebrew games. Certainly a lot worse things to be spending your money on!
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Re: Rtg ?
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2011, 03:04:23 PM »
Depends on your CPU.

IMO : Upgrades should be in the following order:

1) Hard Drive (or IDE->CF/SD)
2) Amiga->PC Data transfer (External IDE->CF/SD, USB or Networking)
3) RAM
4) CPU
5) RTG

The thing is with the Mediator Route... if you add a 256Mbyte Radeon 92x0 RTG gfx card the memory can be used for the main system so at the same time you're also adding upto ~240Mbytes of Zorro RAM.

Negative side is that you will either need a scandoubler & monitor switcher or two monitors.
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