New AGA SDL Development

[AmigaClassicRule]

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You do not get it...I already have account. It just these files are located in The Zone and The Zone have special privileges that I do not have with my current account. In the end I just need to wait until NovaCoder releases it into Aminet that is all.

[guest7029]

How to access The Zone over at EAB: http://eab.abime.net/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_thezone_faq_item

[AmigaClassicRule]

How to access The Zone over at EAB: http://eab.abime.net/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_thezone_faq_item

I download the program...I run it...nothing happens. I even run it from CLI shell and nothing happens.

[magnetic]

Wow this is really exciting finally a newish browser for 68k classics. I'll have to try it. It looks pretty darn slow but lets hope for some optimizations.

[Retrofan]

I've got the idea that NetSurf will be updated very soon, as Nova sent Arti his latest SDL files right after the Beta.

I suposse Nova's files will mean a faster NetSurf. Also Arti was looking about how to get rid of Ixemul. My best wishes to him/that.

I'm planning to add NetSurfAGA to my next AmiKit Real update, 04 :razz:

Great work here with this development :banana:

[adrian82]

I'm currently working on a  new SDL library which is a cut-down version specifically made for good old AGA Amiga's (like mine!).

What version of SDL is this based on? And where can I get the source of your Amiga port?

Cheers,

Adrian

[NovaCoder]

What version of SDL is this based on? And where can I get the source of your Amiga port?

Cheers,

Adrian

It's a bit of a hack, based on the old 68k RTG SDL + Arti's updates + some vanilla v1.2.15 and then Amiga AGA specific optimizations added + hacked to death by yours truly.

So far it's been used to port NetSurf, Descent Rebirth, DosBox v0.74 to AGA and now being used to attempt to port Ultima 7.   If all goes well I'll upload it to AmiNet with some simple demo programs.   It will support most of the basic SDL functions but to get the max performance out of a port you'll need to do some updates.

[adrian82]

It's a bit of a hack, based on the old 68k RTG SDL + Arti's updates + some vanilla v1.2.15 and then Amiga AGA specific optimizations added + hacked to death by yours truly.
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If all goes well I'll upload it to AmiNet with some simple demo programs.   It will support most of the basic SDL functions but to get the max performance out of a port you'll need to do some updates.

Nice! Please don't forget to include the sources then, the 1.2 version is still LGPL-licensed and the sources therefore have to be provided with the binaries.

Will be nice to see what people do with the code!

Adrian

[cunnpole]

LGPL-licensed and the sources therefore have to be provided with the binaries.

The Lesser GPL doesn't require that at all. It can be used in commercial proprietary ways without any source code release. You either release your modified binary or the source (or both if you are feeling generous). Full fat GPL describes what you indicate.

[adrian82]

The Lesser GPL doesn't require that at all. It can be used in commercial proprietary ways without any source code release. You either release your modified binary or the source (or both if you are feeling generous). Full fat GPL describes what you indicate.

True, the little "L" somehow didn't show at first glimpse . Well, I still hope a full source disclosure then. The more people have access to the source, the better. The Amiga needs open source software.

Cheers,

Adrian

[cunnpole]

The Amiga needs open source software.

Agreed, too much has been lost already as devs lives change. Although I know how difficult it can be to let your baby go

[adrian82]

Although I know how difficult it can be to let your baby go

Why? You're not losing anything. It's rather the opposite, you can only win. The more people can work with the code, the better.

I disclose every source code I have ever written and I never had any bad experiences. I even had people pick up the code and send me patches which dramatically boosted development.

The largest software projects in the world are all open source and the Amiga is one of the platforms profiting from that (current versions of Linux still run on the Amiga .

Adrian

[wawrzon]

@adrian82

very good attitude. hpw about helping out to polish up aros68k? aros is open source by definition and platform independant. with aros you can have both amiga backwards binary compatibility and certain posix compatibility afaik so ports  from linux world can be easier without the need of ixemul libs.

[adrian82]

hpw about helping out to polish up aros68k? aros is open source by definition and platform independant.

Well, no. AROS is open source, but they have weird license which isn't considered really free as far as I know. On top of that, I'm rather a Linux guy (being a Debian Developer) and having Debian on my Amiga is much more fun and useful.

Adrian

[Fats]

Well, no. AROS is open source, but they have weird license which isn't considered really free as far as I know.

It is the Mozilla license with Mozilla replaced with AROS. Don't see why it is not free.
Staf.

[chris]

Why? You're not losing anything. It's rather the opposite, you can only win. The more people can work with the code, the better.

I disclose every source code I have ever written and I never had any bad experiences. I even had people pick up the code and send me patches which dramatically boosted development.

I do that on occasion, and people still send me bug reports rather than patches.
I've actually had more success with closed source projects - people ask for the source code, I provide it, and stuff actually gets done.

Having said that, it does annoy me when I find something on Aminet that I want to update, there's no source code and the developer is long gone.